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New Gen 4 Glock 19 Issues

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#1 ·
Hey gents. Went with a friend of mine to a gun show a few weekends ago and helped her pick out a pistol. We looked around for a bit, and she decided on a Glock 19.

So she bought the new handgun, a few boxes of 9mm and went home this past weekend to go shoot it with her family. She says she ran only 1 box of 50 rounds through it, and she's had multiple issues with failure to extract (I think she was describing stove pipe jams) and double feeds. I did some research, and all that I could find was an issue with the recoil spring when the Gen 4s first came out several years ago, and the problem was mostly a heavy trigger pull, issues due to an overpowered recoil spring, and brass ejection into the face.

Any suggestions as to what might be going on? I did a full take down and cleaning when she brought it back to me, and I'm planning on going to a local range with her to pinpoint the issue and train her a bit more. In the meantime, any suggestions would be much appreciated.
 
#2 ·
Well it is very difficult to tell from a second hand vision of what may have happened. But I am thinking a New Female shooter you would be looking at a grip problem (Weak or limp wrist) combined with the tightness of the new gun. Someone else needs to fire it with experience with the gun. Without knowing more I would say this is likely the issue.
 
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Uh, oh, here we go again. The problem could be limp wristing, but it's not likely. It's actually kind of hard to limp wrist a Glock. If you can, get the following information from her.

1. What are the first three letters of the serial number.
2. What version recoil spring does she have. If it's the old one, Glock will send her the new one for free.
3. What is the number on the ejector. It should be 30274. If it's 336, I think Glock will send her a new one.
4. Is it a "dipped" or "non dipped" extractor.
5. What kind of ammo was she using? Was it steel or aluminum cased? What bullet weight?

In the meantime, she should try using standard 9x19 NATO ammo. It's a slightly heavier bullet and more powder. Not quite +P but definitely more snappy than the standard 115gr practice ammo they sell at the ranges. If that doesn't fix the problem, then try some actual +P. If hotter ammo doesn't work, then she has two choices. She can try different extractors, which is expensive and only fixes the problem in less than ten percent of cases, and usually only after much trial and error with combining with different springs and bearings. The second option is sending the gun back to Glock. She will most likely have to send it in multiple times before they just give up and replace it with a new gun. 3 times seems to be the magic number.
 
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Limp wristing a Glock 19 is a common problem for new shooters. Every time I'd deploy to Iraq/Afghanistan I'd have to go through a Glock/M4 familiarization class. Many of the people in the classes would be admin/support people who had never fired a handgun prior to the class. It was not at all unusual for many gals (and a number of guys) to have stoppages from limp wristing the 19. Even more had problems with the 26. Coaches were able to quickly point out the problem and get shooters to properly handle the weapons, illuminating failures.

Hope she was shooting fmj ammo. I have seen failures to eject from shooting cast lead ammo in a Glock. I warned the shooter about the ammo he was using and moved away from his position.

Problem could be the recoil spring, but with a new shooter I'd be more inclined to say its a limp wristing problem.
 
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+1, Me to from what the OP has said also
 
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Steps after purchasing a NEW gun ......

Before anything, clean and lube the gun BEFORE shooting it.

Buy several boxes of QUALITY ammo. NOT reloads. NOT cheap ammo.

Then run several hundred rounds through your new pistol, to get pass the "break-in period". Misfeeds, stove pipes and such happen during the "break-in period". Don't worry about it. Clear the pistol, reload and continue firing. When you get closer to the end of the "break-in period" the misfeeds will happen fewer and fewer times.

After you're finished breaking in your new gun, clean and lube it again.
 
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#7 · (Edited by Moderator)
Chris C



Hi, I am an Australian, we are unable to buy Glock 19s or 17s as you can, I recently bought a 17A which is essentially a 17 with a 34 barrel, I found with my Gen4 the ejection was a little weak after the pistol heated up.I decided the design of the recoil spring was the problem, small amount of oil on and in it completely solved the problem and after a years shooting I have not had one malfunction of any sort, In IPSC rapid fire stages it drops all the empties about a yard to the right of my feet all in about a square yard. Chris C