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500 Magnum - Insane Loads

3.7K views 13 replies 3 participants last post by  Philmo11  
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When the 500 magnum was introduced, it boasted a 50 caliber handgun cartridge capable of 2,600 ft lbs of energy using a 300gr bullet.

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The two loads above are at the top of the power chart in my Lee reloading manual. Lil’ Gun capable of 2,841 ft lbs of energy and H110 capable of generating 2,738 ft lbs. Both already exceed the original estimate by a decent margin, using a heavier bullet, which is quite impressive. (I actually think hodgdon’s site lists a hotter Lil’ Gun load than my manual does, but I don’t have the manual handy at the moment to confirm that.)

Well, a while back when little brother and I were on the hunt for smaller reloading shops, I came across Alliant’s 300-MP.
I had never used it before and frankly, forgot I had it until I overhauled the loading room. It was specifically designed for magnum pistol cartridges.

While I was on my weekly hunt for loading components today, I found a few hundred 500 magnum new Starline brass. I haven’t been able to find Lil’ Gun in many months. That’s my choice powder for these rounds. Mainly, it’s because of the relatively low pressure at max load. The shop got some H110 in. I should have probably bought more than 3lbs but my total bill was already over $500. 3lbs it was.

Before I left the shop, I looked up load data for 300-MP for 350gr jacketed bullets. To my surprise, it exceeded both top contenders in my manual. The load data below would generate an incredible 3,084 ft lbs of energy.

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I am very curious at what pressure the loads are generating that much energy at. It’s tempting to try a few slightly reduced loads to see what this powder can really do. On the other hand... WOW!
 
Discussion starter · #6 ·
Unfortunately, my chrono won’t clock these. I did, however, get some awesome pics. Shined the headlights on the ground out in front of the range and fired these into the ground. Had Nic stand at the top of the steps around the corner of the house just in case the gun exploded.

The second before the round went off
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The flash lit up the backyard
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The shockwave when it hit the camera.
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Nic said he could feel the shockwave in his bones. These were loaded to 45gr of Alliant 300-MP. I used a standard Winchester LR primer instead of a LRM.

Idk how fast they were going but I fired two at 2200lbs of energy and these were a very noticeable power difference.
 
Discussion starter · #11 ·
Well, I got a 39.0gr H110 load to clock. Don’t know how right it is. 2003 FPS. Book says 1712 FPS with an XTP. It’s about 14% faster than the book. I am using copper plated bullets rated at 2000 FPS.

On a side note, I tried clocking 3 more followed by one of the hot MP-300 loads at 47.0gr. Those MP loads were definitely hotter. I believe that’s the first time this gun crack my knuckle on the trigger guard.
 
Discussion starter · #13 ·
Yeah, idk what it is. I have trouble clocking trail boss loads sometimes. If been as far back as 30’. I’m not going any further back than that. I have confidence in my aim but something about shooting through that triangle bothers me. Don’t know if it’s focusing on the target through that weird shaped hole or what. It’s unsettling.
 
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I loaded up 100 of those 47gr 300-MP loads. Just because I like knowing I have a box of nuclear missiles at my disposal. Not something to shoot everyday.

I also loaded up 39 rds of H110 @39gr. Per the book, those should be neck and neck with the Lil’ Gun loads I already had. Odd number but I had 11 Lil’ Gun loads laying around and it finished off a box of 50. In sure that chrono told a fib. I have the Lil’gun loads labeled as 1,800 and 2,200 ft lbs. (the difference is only 150 FPS)

I have 150 that I didn’t label. They are either Trail Boss cowboy loads or Unique I loaded in the mid range. I’ll have to go back and pull one out of each box and chrono them if I can. I didn’t bother labeling because either the Cowboy or the midrange were pretty mild shooters in that big ole gun. A while back @deputy mentioned painting the end of the bullets to see if that helped the chrono. I haven’t tried that yet.

I have 50 brass left.

150 Light and Midrange (900-1500 ft lbs)
150 Hot (1,800-2,200 ft lbs)
100 Super Hot (2,700-2,900 ft lbs)
100 of factory ammo (1,100-1,300 ft lbs)

Those Hot and Super Hot are estimated based on load data since the chrono won’t clock them. Minus a little speed for barrel length, add a little because of friction difference, they are CPFP and not FMJ. Thinking about finishing these last 50 as Hot loads with H110. I have still yet to find those 200 brass that went missing. That’s unsettling because it’s $170 in brass.