[john_preston]

In late 1998, I knew one old gray "campus" police chief, first name of Ted, at College of Marin campus in Kentfield, Marin County, California who thought it was totally wrong for "an ordinary" citizen to own as many as eight firearms.

This is in the SF Bay Area which is about the most lefty part of Commie-fornia.

He claimed it was "the right of police officers" to own that many guns and that "most people didn't own so many guns".

This was before SCOTUS ruled that the Second Amendment was an INDIVIDUAL right.

Where is the word "POLICE" enumerated in the 2nd A anyway?

So, if some cop were ever to try to jack you or shame you about owning any number of guns, how would you try to explain it?

Do you use the old cop-out that "I am a collector" or "I am hunter"?

This same guy named Ted also thought that any person who would keep a loaded shotgun by his bed at night to be "paranoid".

Incidentally, a young officer in Ted's department claimed that he was pro-Second Amendment.

The rank and file cops tend to be pro-gun but the higher ups are often gun-grabbers.

Cops and others with the mentality of Ted are the single greatest danger to the American ideals of liberty. No mass shooter is as nearly as dangerous.

 

[mini14]

Probably when the gun safe is full. I don't own any firearms but my wife has copious amounts..

 

[LRDGCO]

As long as he, she, or it can provide food, clothing, shelter, and health care for themselves and their dependents, what they do with their disposable income is nobody elses business.

 

[deputy]

as far as an officer....or anyone else......asking me how many firearms i own, the answer is simple........"enough"

Typically, most police organizations like the FOP and especially the IACP tend to be anti-gun at the leadership level and tend to endorse the democrat party.......or at least they have in the past. i quit the FOP back in the 90's when they endorsed clinton.

 

[AgedWarrior]

In late 1998, I knew one old gray "campus" police chief, first name of Ted, at College of Marin campus in Kentfield, Marin County, California who thought it was totally wrong for "an ordinary" citizen to own as many as eight firearms.

This is in the SF Bay Area which is about the most lefty part of Commie-fornia.

He claimed it was "the right of police officers" to own that many guns and that "most people didn't own so many guns".

This was before SCOTUS ruled that the Second Amendment was an INDIVIDUAL right.

Where is the word "POLICE" enumerated in the 2nd A anyway?

So, if some cop were ever to try to jack you or shame you about owning any number of guns, how would you try to explain it?

Do you use the old cop-out that "I am a collector" or "I am hunter"?

This same guy named Ted also thought that any person who would keep a loaded shotgun by his bed at night to be "paranoid".

Incidentally, a young officer in Ted's department claimed that he was pro-Second Amendment.

The rank and file cops tend to be pro-gun but the higher ups are often gun-grabbers.

Cops and others with the mentality of Ted are the single greatest danger to the American ideals of liberty. No mass shooter is as nearly as dangerous.

What does morality have have to do with the number of guns someone owns? Nothing!

Why would I, or anyone for that matter, get in a debate with a policeman about how many guns I should own? Unless, of course, you were breaking the law and the possession or use of firearms was part of your violation, you would have no reason for such a discussion unless the policeman was a friend you were talking with. I have a few friends that are police and sheriff deputies, good folks, good friends; trustworthy friends. Complacency is the greatest danger to American freedoms and ideals, and complacency is spread among all peoples and groups and organizations and politics!

 

[KILTED COWBOY]

as far as an officer....or anyone else......asking me how many firearms i own, the answer is simple........"enough"

Typically, most police organizations like the FOP and especially the IACP tend to be anti-gun at the leadership level and tend to endorse the democrat party.......or at least they have in the past. i quit the FOP back in the 90's when they endorsed clinton.

My simple answer would be not enough, never enough.

 

[john9001]

A collector is just that, a collector of whatever. Some rich have more cars than they could ever drive.

 

[Ziggidy]

It's no ones business how many I own or if I own any at all. No where in the constitution does it state who needs to know, who needs to know how many or anything of the sort. It just states that I can have them if I want them.

 

[Mad Scientist]

"What's the greatest number of guns any American should morally own?"

Answer: ∞²

 

[Alan R McDaniel Jr]

What the Hell kind of question is that? Owning any piece of legal property is not a moral issue. There's no answer, moot point, whether it's guns or beanie babies.


Alan

 

[Ziggidy]

What the Hell kind of question is that? Owning any piece of legal property is not a moral issue. There's no answer, moot point, whether it's guns or beanie babies.


Alan

Common' Alan.....you own all that? You need to share what you have; it's your "moral" obligation! Don't believe me? Ask Bernie, Elizabeth or any of the others!

Where have you been sleeping, common' socialism is the new fad!

 

[RaySendero]

"Morally" has nothing to do with the greatest number of guns a man should own!!!

The formula for the greatest number a man should own is = N - 1.

Where N is the number that your wife puts all your belonging outside and changes the locks on the doors.

 

[john_preston]

What the Hell kind of question is that? Owning any piece of legal property is not a moral issue. There's no answer, moot point, whether it's guns or beanie babies.

Alan

Apparently, the police chief, Ted, cited above did think it a MORAL issue. He had that "shame-on-you-for-owning-eight-guns" attitude. The Marin County Sheriff's Department, under Sheriff Doyle, along with the College of Marin "campus police" under Ted got a warrant to search my brother's home in northern California, CA in 1998 and arrest my brother. The police showed up at my brother's house with 10 police cars and an army of officers with paramilitary dress and paramilitary-looking weapons on the morning on November 4, 1998. My brother was under suspicion for "making a bomb scare" against a community college in that area but that charge was later dismissed. Ted interrogated my brother and the eight guns the police found during the search including the police pump by his bed with shells in it apparently was a "big deal" with Ted. My brother was not even suspected of any firearm-related incident. Chief Ted lectured my brother during the interrogation seeming to thrash his Second Amendment rights. After the charge was dismissed, my brother got all his guns back about five months later. The cops confiscated all of them while the charge was pending. The issue should have only been about the alleged crime in question, not how many guns the suspect owned.

Why did Chief Ted (forgot his last name) jack up my brother for having not just a gun but eight guns, a loaded shotgun with an attached bayonet by his bed while being a "civilian"? As far as I know, there is no law against owning any NUMBER of guns in Commie-fornia or even a pump shotgun with a bayonet.

None of my brother's guns were even a so-called assault weapon.

-1 .357 revolver
-1 Colt Govt. Mod. 45 handgun
-2 bolt-action hunting rifles
-1 over/under shotgun
-1 auto-loading shotgun with a field barrel and wood stock
-1 police pump 12 ga. with an attached bayonet
-1 antique Savage lever-action rifle


The whole point of this thread is the police or others may question the number of guns you own or even scold you for owning so many.

Some will try to shame you for exercising your 2nd A rights, for being an American or being a Patriot "kook".
Many Christians and Jews over the centuries have been so shamed or persecuted for their religious beliefs.

The question is, how do we deal with those who QUESTION our gun ownership or the ethics of it? Do we have to explain our
gun ownership or the number of guns owned? Do we have to "justify" owning eight or ten guns somehow?

Whenever I hear the phrase "most people don't do that" I feel that is a form of admonition for being a "non-conformist".

Apparently to guys like Ted, exercising one's right to vote is OK because "most people do that".

How might we deal with those who would say "what do you need that for" if you have an AR-15, let's say?

How do we deal with people who say gun owners are "paranoid" or "cowards"?

My mother, a George McGovern/Di-Fi/Boxer/Carter Democrat, once said that "most decent people" aren't gun owners.

My brother and I were Reagan/Bush/Deukmejian/Wilson Republicans living in CA.

 

[BigNastyCowboy]

The whole point of this thread is the police or others may question the number of guns you own or even scold you for owning so many.

No, they won't.

They would be inhibited because a phone call could cause them trouble.

 

[surevaliance]

All of my guns are immorally owned.
Some are even more immorally owned than other.

What's the greatest number of dildos any Liberal should morally own?


FIFY.

 

[john_preston]

Gun ownership is a constitutional issue. Violating and showing disdain for the

constitution is both unlawful and immoral in my book.

Gun-grabbers disguised as cops make me feel especially ill.

 

[john_preston]

All of my guns are immorally owned.
Some are even more immorally owned than other.

What's the greatest number of dildos any Liberal should morally own?


FIFY.

The question about the morality of gun numbers was meant to be rhetorical and facetious at best.

There are some who feel you should only own ONE gun at most, a muzzle-loader at that.

How many Ryder trucks should be in the company's fleet? At least one such "evil" truck "killed"

a number of folks in Oklahoma City in 1995....but was the TRUCK actually "guilty" of the crime?

How many fully-fueled jetliners should an airline company own?

 

[Fitasc Shooter]

How many pairs of shoes should any woman in America be able to own?

 

[surevaliance]

How many pairs of shoes should any woman in America be able to own?

Don't worry!
Socialists will lease us publicly owned shoes.

 

[john_preston]

How many pairs of shoes should any woman in America be able to own?

As many as she can afford to acquire without stealing them, going on welfare or depleting the children's college fund (or EVEN TOUCHING ONE CENT OF the man's boating and hunting fund).

How many guns should an American "civilian" be allowed to own?

As many as he can afford to acquire without stealing them, going on welfare or depleting the children's college fund (unless the child gets poor high school grades
ANYWAY and/or there is an emergency whereby one needs to stock up on arms as in the case of civil unrest).

It may be good to have an extra pair of shoes or boots for an emergency but 50 pairs is overkill for a tornado, a civil war, a riot or an insurrection.