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What To Do If Approached About Carrying A Firearm In A Store

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Philip Van Cleave
September 18, 2019


Virginia — -(AmmoLand.com)- Now that some of the dust has settled, here is some more information and thoughts on Walmart, Kroger, and the other stores that are “virtue signaling” on guns:

Walmart

The video of the open-carrier getting kicked out of a Walmart in Kentucky happened before Walmart's virtue signaling episode began. It appears to have had more to do with the gun owner embarrassing Walmart by trying to get someone to help him at the unattended firearms counter, than him having an openly-carried handgun. There is a link to the Facebook posting from the gun owner on that incident.

Several people here in Virginia and in Texas have tested open carry in Walmarts and have had no issues. No change in signage at Walmart has yet occurred either.
https://thehill.com/homenews/news/4...art-request-not-to-open-carry-guns-into-store

For now it would seem that it is business as usual if you wish to carry at Walmart openly or concealed. Of course, there is the issue of Walmart asking Congress for more gun control — which is stupid and unacceptable.

Another store virtue signals on guns. https://wtvr.com/2019/09/11/publix-...ers-not-to-openly-carry-guns-into-its-stores/

Publix is now virtue signaling the same message as Walmart, Kroger, CVS, Walgreens and others by asking customers not to open carry in their stores. I, for one, personally, and respectfully, decline to honor that request.

Various companies have sent a letter to the Senate calling for more gun control.

There is the letter from close to 150 companies we need to stop doing business with (Uber, Lyft, Levi's, Gap, Nextdoor, JJ Abrams, Royal Caribbean Cruises, Yelp, and many others). How stupid of all these companies to bring politics into their businesses. They have just needlessly lost a lot of customers.

Texas Senator Ted Cruz let their CEOs have it with this response.

Seems support for gun control is trending down.

What To Do If Approached About Carrying A Firearm In A Store

I have been conferring with one of Virginia Citizens Defense League's attorneys and offer this general advice if approached by a store employee and/or the police while carrying in a business:

If approached by a store employee, ask to speak to the manager (often employees don't know that while the store may prohibit them, as employees, from carrying at work, the store may not prevent customers from doing so).

If the manager or store security confirms they don't want you carrying in the store, just politely and quietly leave the store. Do NOT ask that they post the business with a “no guns” sign.

You DO NOT have to identify yourself, nor do you have to sign anything. You should simply leave without argument.

If the police are involved and they ask you to identify yourself, you should do so to them only. Do NOT sign any document except in the extremely unlikely case that it is a summons to appear in court issued by the police. (Failure to sign a summons will leave the police with no choice but to arrest you.) Leave the store once the police have indicated you are free to go. If the police want you to sign something from the company, just say you don't sign anything unless you have a lawyer present and stick to that. You will not be charged with trespass if this is the first time the police have approached you at that business. You have committed no crime, so there is nothing to sign.

All that said, be polite to the officers and do NOT debate the company's policy with the police. You have nothing to gain by being anything other than reasonable and pleasant.




https://www.ammoland.com/2019/09/what-to-do-if-approached-carrying-a-firearm/
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Support for gun control might be trending down but, among republicans, it's trending up. Sean Hannity, today, came out for UBC on his radio show.
I'll accept UBC, if they also require that all records of the approved transfer are destroyed within seven days, after the transfer takes place.

This goes for all FFL record transfers also.
See what I mean. When supposed gun-rights-supporters support infringement on gun rights, we're in serious trouble in this country.
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Cruz talking out his ass to appease the DEMS.
He should take a look at the Constitution and uphold it!!! SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED!!
Cruz talking out his ass to appease the DEMS.
He should take a look at the Constitution and uphold it!!! SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED!!
Link, please? Not doubting it; politicians suck, but I had better hopes for Cruz.
Link, please? Not doubting it; politicians suck, but I had better hopes for Cruz.
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/washington-secrets/cruz-slams-anti-gun-execs-oh-so-brave

The only thing needed is for all politicians to read and uphold the Constitution's 2nd amendment with anyone opposing it be denied their right of the 2nd amendment.

Of course the Constitution can be changed and/or amended.

If a NICS background check isn't sufficient for you to buy a gun, then tell me what will. The Government and local Law enforcement are responsible for the information in the NICS system and when they/either or don't do their jobs by submitting that information then the system will always be flawed. What else could you add to a background check to improve it to make the people safer?

https://www.co.forsyth.nc.us/Sheriff/documents/ConcealedHandgunPermit_Application.pdf

When I first did my CCW it was printed on the application that it was a felony if you lied on any of the questions. No longer on the application but on the consent forms when you apply.
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