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Ok I know not many members of this forum are into VR ( oculus rift or Vive systems) <--- There are others but the ones giving you the best VR experience are these two.
The games in VR are the next thing in gaming, you just can't explain how "being" in a game is, and seeing everything around you in 3D looks like, you just have to put this thing on your face and I know and bet anything your first word will be a swear or a laugh. These days I'm playing one called Arizona Sunshine (horde mode) it's about shooting zombies, yeah I know you probably think it must get boring fast and you don't feel the recoil of your gun etc. It's true for the gun but it's so intense that your palm sweat lol and the guns are very precise, if you aim like a dick, you hit nothing so your knowledge of guns is very useful in there, there are a few vids with peoples (Brits) obviously not used to guns who shoot like dicks and spend all of their ammo too quick and never go really far. There are tons of shooter game one staged in an old west town where you duel it out with other peoples (real peoples) here's a video.
Edit: Again, watching this is nowhere near what you see in the game although it's the same, being "in it" is hard to describe :lol:

 

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And one of Arizona sunshine, you get semi auto handguns AR type, uzi's, magnum wheel guns etc.

 

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It's so much fun it's addictive btw I doubt that the guy in A.S. is at the 370th wave, I can't get past the 22nd and it's a lot harder (lot more zombies at the same time) than what this guy shows sometimes 8 or 9 runners at the same time plus the regular ones and it's friggin night time. you have to use the uzi for close range defence literally shooting them 2 feet away just sweeping
Could be he's playing easy level I just got in as it was so probably normal and there's a hard lol
 

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It's so much fun it's addictive btw I doubt that the guy in A.S. is at the 370th wave, I can't get past the 22nd and it's a lot harder (lot more zombies at the same time) than what this guy shows sometimes 8 or 9 runners at the same time plus the regular ones and it's friggin night time. you have to use the uzi for close range defence literally shooting them 2 feet away just sweeping
Could be he's playing easy level I just got in as it was so probably normal and there's a hard lol
This looks like a lot of fun, how can I get started in doing this? Can you put up a list of things needed?
 

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Depending on your computer it could be pricey. But if you have a recent machine (AMD Ryzen for a processor or an intel 7) and a good graphic card all you need is the Oculus rift package.
Presently I have an AM3 machine with a 8350 vishera (they're $119 here so no more than $80-90 in the US) it runs everything but i want to upgrade. The graphic card is what needs to be relatively new so if you do recent video games you probably have what it takes already. I have a MSI 1070 TI .

They made this to see if your comp can run VR, there's a test https://support.oculus.com/1357437467617798/
This will tell you what fails to meet requirements

I bought my Oculus rift at Newegg in the US they're $399 but I recommend another sensor ($59) and you absolutely need at least 3 USB 3 ports on your machine for 2 of the sensors and the headset, otherwise like me you will have to get a USB card, and your graphic card needs a HDMI in all the new ones have it.

Personally I think it sucks that stores don't have some kind of demo or very few of them do, it would be the perfect thing to really know if you want to invest, but if you're a video game player there's no way in hell you will not like this unless like my brother you get motion sickness easily. They also rate the games by "comfortable, moderate and intense" as in watching a 3D all around you scene/movie whether sitting or standing is comfortable and flying a jet is intense cause you do pitch yaw and roll and your brain sees it as real so the feeling you get in a roller coaster going down a steep hill or doing a barrel roll is the same but you don't move so that's very confusing for your brain loll and some get that motion sickness feeling more than others
Man I wish I could teleport you guys here to try it :lol:
 

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I have the AMD 8150 which is not recommended. Besides the minimum requirements I would not expect good results untill you go well past the minimums. My new system is midrange but I haven't decided what VR system to get yet. The Vive has more support by big time gamers and generally considered better but since the Oculus dropped in price a few months ago it makes it very competitive.

To get started all you need is a powerful enough PC then the VR system which they nickel and dime you to death to get a robust system. You should get the extra transmitters to locate you better and in the back. If you're not familiar with VR systems the game locates your head and hands. So when you turn your head and move the controller in your hands it follows your movement and it translates all that movement and places you spatially in the game.

If you want a sample you can get VR goggles for your phone. They're about $25. There's simple 3d movies and such or 180/360 deg interactive movies, mostly porn, that allows you to look around in 3d.
 

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"If you want a sample you can get VR goggles for your phone."
I've tried those at best buy, they're nowhere near what the Oculus or the Vive can do. It's like comparing peas to watermelon '

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The Vive has more support by big time gamers and generally considered better"
I agree tech wise but Vive support sucks and replacement parts transmitter/sensor (which is probably the only part which can give you problems) I haven't been able to locate a store. On the other hand you can get the Oculus sensors cheap anywhere which is why I leaned towards the Oculus and so far I haven't been deceived by the lack of anything and I've been driving it at least 4 to 5 hours a day lol.

Vive's back up is Steam (an open software Co. where peoples can create games) but you can also buy and play steam games on the Oculus (I did and do) and it works as good as Oculus games
Oculus's backup is Facebook yeah I know but business/money wise and peoples to make it better are far superior than Steam, if Mr. FB sees a profit and he does he will put his best brains on it (and he does)
Here's a video of how they're trying to make a system without the computer (less performance of course) and no tracking modules (sensors) so very "portable"

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Oh and btw there is a part that's giving me problems... well sort of, it's the wire attached to the headset. I made it so my wire goes from the computer to hooks on the ceiling and comes down in the middle of my play field. It's great cause you don't get tangled in the wire when you turn and turn but all that turning is transmitted to the wire itself so I ended up with a twisted wire loll.
Something to keep in mind, every so often, take the headset off and turn it back to it's original position if you're in a game that requires you to always look around you, cause most of the time a person lefty or right hand will always turn the same way clock wise or counter. Something I found out with this lol
 

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"If you want a sample you can get VR goggles for your phone."
I've tried those at best buy, they're nowhere near what the Oculus or the Vive can do. It's like comparing peas to watermelon '
They're not near what they can do but with a smartphone and $25 you can enter the world of 3d VR vs $1,500 for a full blown system.
 

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Totally agree Fred but peoples tend to make up their minds about VR with those, there's even one made out of cardboard that you can slip your smart phone in and like I said it's not the same. Best thing would be to find a store that has a demo system to really have an idea. One good thing though, they're coming out with stuff that's very close like the one in the video and for a lot cheaper since you don't have to have a top of the line PC. that's what Oculus is working on these days to get more peoples in VR

 

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So, I watched a few videos a on the Oculus Go and it’s my understanding that it is a stand alone system. Is this true?
I have no problem getting a computer that will perform what it takes to do this. My problem is I’m not very computer savvy.

Back in my gaming days I was addicted to HALO. I played every chance I got and I became very good at it. I even went through it on the hardest level by myself using just the pistol.
 

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The GO is a stand alone but games are limited which is why they're working on the Quest (coming out soon) The Quest games are" simplified " Rift games so you can't play Rift games on it.
There are Computers in stores that have what it takes out of the box per se but they're not cheap.

Here's one that besides the memory is as good as what I have, the bazooka board is good, you could get 2 more sticks of ram, the video card is beyond awesome it's the latest that can do ray tracing, the 2 TB drive will be slow but it's only to load your games, (you could get a SSD later on) and it works with an intel I-7 chip 3.2 Ghz.
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16883230373

You also will need one of these USB-3 cards that plugs in your small PCI-E slots on the motherboard to be able to plug in your sensors (Oculus) I have one, works flawlessly. Plug and it works (the bazooka board doesn't have enough USB-3 ports)
https://www.amazon.ca/StarTech-com-SuperSpeed-Power-Quad-Controller-PCIUSB3S4/dp/B00HJZEA2S/ref=sr_1_23?ie=UTF8&qid=1543899585&sr=8-23&keywords=USB+card&th=1

So this and say the Oculus system... Not cheap I admit

Edit: As long as you know what's the ram and what's your video card and where to plug in both that's all the saavy you need hardware wise, the rest is programs that you load, once loaded in they work. The Oculus rift has instructions it's very easy to set up
 

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Yeah, PS's are about the level of what the Oculus Quest will be and like it you need their own games but PS has the most popular ones including Arizona Sunshine but... their hand held controllers also acts as trackers so if your hands go past the headset (receiver) as in shooting arrows you might experience a freeze (let go of your arrow but nothing happens till you turn your head so your headset sees your tracker) little things that can make a big diffrence in your VR game and break the feeling of immersion
But if I had a "limited" budget (sorry can't go further than $xxx amount) it's probably what I would've picked
I also picked the Oculus rift cause I already had the computer all I needed was the video card upgrade which was about the same price as the rift package which was costing about the same amount as a play station and a PS VR
 

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" their hand held controllers also acts as trackers "

To explain that further, an Oculus rift has motion sensors that you fix to your walls and create a field, (it sees a bit like motion sensors, it creates kind of a rectangle cone that goes wider the further it goes and they interconnect in the computer so it makes a visual/see-able space) everything going on with the headset and hand held controllers in that virtual cube or space is sent to the computer like a GPS locator. The "game" knows where you are and what your hands and head are doing. You can turn put your hands behind your back above your head it doesn't matter as long as you stay in the field you made in the setup. As an example, mine is about 12 feet wide by 8 long by 7 high that's the space I can move in actually walking in my games. What ever I do in there the game knows where I am and a nice thing about that is it will alert you if you get close to a wall cause you do and walk right in sometimes or hit the wall with your controller lol

The playstation is using the hand held controllers as the things to follow in the game and your headset is what is picking up the signals so if your hands go out of the field of view of the headset, to the game it's gone. So no play field here you have to keep your hands so your headset sees them nothing to prevent you to hit anything while playing but as with the rift if you break something spare parts are available, not so with the Vive system ( I "heard/read" that the service and parts are almost non existent, takes for ever to get a tracking module fixed or it's impossible to buy them separately )

Edit: I forgot, if you do hit something with your hand held thingys with a play station you're also hitting your motion trackers/sensors and those are THE sensitive part of the system and without anything to tell you where the walls are, you will hit them... everything is in the colorful balls at the end of it
 

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I stand corrected but that doesn't help them at all, that means that it has only one "tracker" and those as the diagram shows always make a cone shape area in other words if you were to lean forward to say catch a ball at knee height or lower, no tracking possible, you have to stay in one position how ever intense your game becomes but it saves your hand held thingys you will not hit them in any walls.
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Glad I was able to get me a rift then, cause this just dropped the PS VR a few notches for me (in my book) I thought the headset tracked the hand held controllers like the Quest will. So if I didn't have the budget for a computer driven VR I'd wait for the Quest.

Oculus has announced its new headset, the Oculus Quest: a $399 standalone virtual reality headset that's launching in the spring of 2019.Sep 26, 2018

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HTC Vive is the other lower cost option right now. It requires a windows 10 machine but with lower requirements than the Oculus rift. It plays all the games on SteamVR.
 
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