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The crackheads scrapped sb16...in favor of hb961.......The stuff happening in Virginia is a litmus test for the future...if you don't think it will affect all gun owners think again.



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Prohibiting sale, transport, etc., of assault firearms, certain firearm magazines, silencers, and trigger activators; penalties. Expands the definition of "assault firearm" and prohibits any person from importing, selling, transferring, manufacturing, purchasing, possessing, or transporting an assault firearm. A violation is a Class 6 felony. The bill prohibits a dealer from selling, renting, trading, or transferring from his inventory an assault firearm to any person. The bill also prohibits a person from carrying a shotgun with a magazine that will hold more than seven rounds of the longest ammunition for which it is chambered in a public place; under existing law, this prohibition applies only in certain localities. The bill makes it a Class 6 felony to import, sell, transfer, manufacture, purchase, possess, or transport large-capacity firearm magazines, silencers, and trigger activators, all defined in the bill. Any person who legally owns an assault firearm, large-capacity firearm magazine, silencer, or trigger activator on July 1, 2020, may retain possession until January 1, 2021. During that time, such person shall (i) render the assault firearm, large-capacity firearm magazine, silencer, or trigger activator inoperable; (ii) remove the assault firearm, large-capacity firearm magazine, silencer, or trigger activator from the Commonwealth; (iii) transfer the assault firearm, large-capacity firearm magazine, silencer, or trigger activator to a person outside the Commonwealth who is not prohibited from possessing it; or (iv) surrender the assault firearm, large-capacity firearm magazine, silencer, or trigger activator to a state or local law-enforcement agency.

The bill further states that any person who legally owns an assault firearm on July 1, 2020, may retain possession of such assault firearm after January 1, 2021, if such person has obtained a permit from the Department of State Police to possess an assault firearm in accordance with procedures established in the bill. A person issued such permit may possess an assault firearm only under the following conditions: (a) while in his home or on his property or while on the property of another who has provided prior permission, provided that the person has the landowner's written permission on his person while on such property; (b) while at a shooting range, shooting gallery, or other area designated for the purpose of target shooting or the target range of a public or private club or organization whose members have organized for the purpose of practicing shooting targets or competing in target shooting matches; (c) while engaged in lawful hunting; or (d) while surrendering the assault firearm to a state or local law-enforcement agency. A person issued such permit may also transport an assault firearm between any of those locations, provided that such assault firearm is unloaded and secured within a closed container while being transported. The bill also provides that failure to display the permit and a photo identification upon demand by a law-enforcement officer shall be punishable by a $25 civil penalty, which shall be paid into the state treasury. The bill also requires the Department of State Police to enter the name and description of a person issued a permit in the Virginia Criminal Information Network (VCIN) so that the permit's existence and current status will be made known to the law-enforcement personnel accessing VCIN for investigative purposes.
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https://lis.virginia.gov/cgi-bin/legp604.exe?201+sum+HB961
 

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SO, has the NRA started drafting lawsuits in their own backyard yet? Have the good folks of VA started impeachment/recall petitions yet?

Before we break out the tar and feathers, or the ARs and AKs, pursue things legally first.
 

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In the article, it appears that paragraph two contradicts paragraph one. It sounds like if you sign up your assault firearm, you can still have it and take it hunting and to the range. If I remember correctly Calif. did that and no one registered their guns. You probably still would have to change out the stock, get 10 rd mags and loose the barrel attachments.
 

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In the article, it appears that paragraph two contradicts paragraph one. It sounds like if you sign up your assault firearm, you can still have it and take it hunting and to the range. If I remember correctly Calif. did that and no one registered their guns. You probably still would have to change out the stock, get 10 rd mags and loose the barrel attachments.
If California did it, it must be ok. :lol:
 

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In the article, it appears that paragraph two contradicts paragraph one. It sounds like if you sign up your assault firearm, you can still have it and take it hunting and to the range. If I remember correctly Calif. did that and no one registered their guns. You probably still would have to change out the stock, get 10 rd mags and loose the barrel attachments.


That would depend on how they define an assault weapon. if they do it by characteristics or by name. meaning if it's a gun with one or more of the following collapsible stock, threaded barrel etc or if they name the guns individually by name and manufacturer which means no matter how they are set up it's an assault rifle .
 

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Good point. I was reading they were defining them by features and not specifically named by brand or model.
 

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Please look up the definition of Assault WEAPON from the BATFE web site. They are already registered with the BATFE and any of you that want to argue this, then please do your own due diligence and find out for yourself. If you own one (AW) then you have jumped through more hoops than a tiger in the circus.

If the NRA does not get involved with this, then they need to let the revolution begin and let the people in power know that hell no we the people want obey..
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Please look up the definition of Assault WEAPON from the BATFE web site. They are already registered with the BATFE and any of you that want to argue this, then please do your own due diligence and find out for yourself. If you own one (AW) then you have jumped through more hoops than a tiger in the circus.

If the NRA does not get involved with this, then they need to let the revolution begin and let the people in power know that hell no we the people want obey..
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We all know what they are,just using the "govt. appointed terms" they use which started in the clintoon days.
 

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The article stated "assault firearm" throughout. Then we have "assault rifle" which are select fire. Then we have "assault weapon" which are the scary looking ones. Take your pick but I haven't heard the term "assault firearm" before.


It seems they are going after the features and coming up with a new name.
 

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If the NRA or any other gun rights organization that doesn’t get involved will be toast. This is the new test to see how they can stop us. This will be repeated across the country. I sent $30 every week for the last 4 weeks to the Virginia grass roots group. https://www.vcdl.org/ it’s not much but if everybody send something, it would make a huge difference. Like drops of water in a bucket but they add up real fast.
 

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If the NRA or any other gun rights organization that doesn’t get involved will be toast. This is the new test to see how they can stop us. This will be repeated across the country. I sent $30 every week for the last 4 weeks to the Virginia grass roots group. https://www.vcdl.org/ it’s not much but if everybody send something, it would make a huge difference. Like drops of water in a bucket but they add up real fast.
I'm a member and also donated to the VCDL.

There is nothing that can be done to stop whats gonna happen in Va....they have the numbers.
 
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