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This is really good. I'm sure USC is getting government funding for this. They ain't stupid. The important thing is they're doing it.
I never could understand the so called criminal activity of the "Varsity Blues Scandal"? It still seems so stupid to me. I know that USC has always been easy to attend...IF... you could pay for it. That was the whole problem. No problem getting in???? So. Cal. is nutso for criminally charging these people. All I could see is they wanted a special position for their kid. So what? Rowing team? So?

Further down in the article. They talk about how much cheaper UCLA is. The problem with UCLA is getting in. They allow all kinds of foreign students in. There ain't room for students from here. I worked with a guy who finally dished over the money for his daughter to go to USC. She couldn't get into UCLA. Or any of the Cal. State university system schools to be a nurse. All taken up by foreign students. So he bit the bullet. Paid for her to go to USC.

One important point... UCLA is in a much nicer neighborhood than USC. :wink:

https://www.foxnews.com/us/usc-announces-free-tuition-for-students-from-families-making-less-than-80g
 

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Sorry for the typo on the title.... I can't change it now.... only if Popeye wasn't so busy.... hehe
 

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If there was more of a call for voluntary programs like this, rather than compulsory programs from the government, then tuition costs would naturally go down. Were it not for government injecting money and regulating into oblivion, tuition costs never would have gotten as high as they are in the first place. Same with health care.
 

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Meanwhile middle class kids are getting hosed by the universities.
Both my sons graduated with a nice chunk of loans to pay off.
You know who will pay for all this as they raise tuition on those who have to pay.
 

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Meanwhile middle class kids are getting hosed by the universities.
Both my sons graduated with a nice chunk of loans to pay off.
You know who will pay for all this as they raise tuition on those who have to pay.
Yep...under any realistic analysis (if such a thing exists) the middle class is paying the "lion's share" of everything! :mad2:
 

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The cost of tuition has not even come close to keeping pace with cost of living and other commodities.
It is ridiculous what they are charging.
I graduated form a private university in 1978.
Tuition was $1500.00 a semester, $3,000 a year. Room was $500.00 a semester, and meal plan was 300.00 a semester.
So $4600.00 a year. Add books and incidentals about 5K a year for a private University, less at a state school.
Look at it now compared to what other stuff costs.
And the education is no better, some may argue it is much worse due to affirmative action letting unqualified kids into school so the to quality of the education has to be dimmed down so they have a chance to graduate.
 

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The two prime reasons for tuition increases are 1) Federal take-over of the school loans programs as far as "backing" for the loans, and 2) ridiculous and unnecessary increases in school Administration personnel "head-counts".

With the stinking Fed's backing the loans, schools are not on the hook by making the loans. They'll get paid, eventually, by our U.S. Treasury.

Increase Administrative staff and you recruit liberal, often DEMOCRAT personnel who become "union dues payers" and therefor join the inflation ridden cycle of increasing tuition's to help pay salaries and pensions while harvesting "votes" for the Democrat politicians who grant pay increases to the "dues payers". A professor at UC Irvine in Kalifornia wrote an op-ed over 12 years ago for the OC Register and stated that he had recently been made aware that he had four (4) administrative personnel assigned to him.This is prevalent in state funded colleges where the administrators are all State Government Employees.

Tuition's have increased 8 times faster than the Cost of Living. And don't get me started on the "school text books" scam.

Actually, the entire college business is a financial scam that has morphed into a business of careers for the schools staff and administrators. The students are truly secondary, especially when some coaches and athletic directors make much more than many school presidents. See the history of the former UC President "Skunky" Janet Napolitano and how she hid $175 Million budgeted monies from an audit, or at least tried, and then called it a "rainy day fund". All the while tuitions at the 10 UC schools were being raised..
 

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When I attended the University of Utah tuition was about $10 per credit hour (quarter hour, we were on a quarter not semester system). I usually took 15-18 credits per quarter so tuition was about 150 to 180 bucks a quarter. Except for classes demanding new texts, I bought my books used at the college book store and sold my used ones so books ran about 20 to 25 bucks a quarter. So, in general less than $200 per quarter. However, back then, I could still buy a Baby Ruth candy bar for a nickel.
 

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And when I graduated from Utah State University in 1977, a full 12+ hour quarterly course load was $147.00, not counting in books and lab fees. All class registrations were done by filling out course schedule cards by hand. No computers to assist the clerics in admin. Today, in spite of computers, the admin staffs are easily 6 to 10 times the size they were in 2000. More union dues for the politicians.
 

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Interesting Steve, you went to Utah State, I went to the University of Utah, and my wife went to BYU.
 

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I took two (2) years general ed and sociology at the University of Utah (65-66 & 70-71) before committing to Aeronautics at USU in 1973. From "Ute" to "Aggie".
 

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Steve, I am an engineer but I was also a quarterback on the UofU freshman football team under the great coach "Cactus Jack Curtice". Unfortunately, I got my hip dislocated and never played beyond my freshman year.
 
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