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By The Editorial Board | [email protected] |
PUBLISHED: October 22, 2021 at 8:26 a.m. | UPDATED: October 22, 2021 at 8:26 a.m.

What if the federal statistics on a deadly nationwide epidemic turned out to reflect fewer than half the American fatalities that they should?

No, for once we’re not talking about the ways that Washington, D.C. indexes deaths caused by COVID-19.

Rather, it’s Americans who have died under color of the authority of police departments around our nation that have been so severely under-reported.

And that scandalous under-reporting has not been the case just in recent years.
For four decades, about 55% of the killings by American police officers have gone uncounted, according to a study released last month conducted by researchers at the University of Washington and published in The Lancet, the British medical journal.

“Across all races and states in the USA,” the authors report, “we estimate 30,800 deaths … from police violence between 1980 and 2018; this represents 17,100 more deaths … than reported by the” National Vital Statistics System.

It will sadly come as no surprise to Americans in the time of Black Lives Matter to learn that Black Americans were statistically the most-killed by police and that their deaths are also the most undercounted.

“Recent studies suggest that over the life course, about one in every 1,000 Black men are killed by the police in the USA, making them 2-5 times more likely to be killed by police than White men,” the study says. “Black women are about 1-4 times more likely to be killed by police than are White women.”


Using the search engine Google Scholar, the University of Washington researchers compared the federal government’s official stats to deaths listed by “three non-governmental, open-source databases: Fatal Encounters, Mapping Police Violence, and The Counted.”

Who and what’s to blame for the discrepancies?

The scholars and The Lancet finger the fact that local government medical examiners and coroners, often not physicians themselves, may have a vested interest in protecting the localities that employ them, as the main source of the undercount.

Forensic pathologists in the United States often work closely with police departments, and sometimes are employed by them.

Coroners, in many counties in this country an elective office, can also overrule and change the cause on death certificates.


Black Louisianan Ronald Greene’s death, for instance, was blamed on cardiac arrest and accidental by the local coroner “before video emerged of him being stunned, beaten and dragged by state troopers,” The New York Times reported.

“I think the big takeaway is that most people in public health tend to take vital statistics for the U.S. and other countries as the absolute truth, and it turns out, as we show, the vital statistics are missing more than half of the police violence deaths,” lead researcher Dr. Christopher Murray told The Times.

There’s no good news to report here. That the way our system works misreports the fact that thousands of Americans have been killed by agents of our government is a national tragedy.
So the only comfort is in knowing that Murray and his team of researchers going forward will continue to issue their reports in an ongoing effort to correct the record on what UW School of Medicine Professor Edwin G. Lindao calls an “attempt to limit the reality of what is.”

 

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A main complaint by the FBI in gathering numbers and statistics for its Annual Crime Report has been, for decades, that from coast-to-coast and border-to-border, independent and local police departments (state, county, city and town) seldom have established or maintained a catagory of numbers of civilians killed by their police officers/departments. The numbers just are not collected and kept by the departments as sources for that number.

There is no law and uniformity of policy across our country to make mandatory a count and record of civilian deaths from Police and Departments!
 

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"we estimate 30,800 deaths"

Everything that follows is based on an educated guess.
 

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"we estimate 30,800 deaths"

Everything that follows is based on an educated guess.
This cracks me up! The 30,800 number is a total "SWAG" but they add the 800 to 30,000 because they believe that it enhances the credibility of the number. Not with me! This is a typical trick used in advertising to make numbers look believable. I don't know if the numbers actually have any credibility but I do know that I support the police!
 

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And the "police" still do not categorize deaths of civilians by their officers/departments for statistical evaluations. THIS is the fact you should be concerned with. The actual numbers are "hidden" and "concealed" by police under different titled categories. Any numbers available as "direct casualties" are estimates.

BUT, if you need to find out at any point during the year, how many police officers have died while on duty or in the line of, you only need Google it.
 
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