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Silent majority is just that.... silent. Absent from the fight we have had and have. We had so many chances...... nada.
You are absolutely correct. We talk. We don't do.

We feel that it's wrong to take extreme measures to accomplish good things. Until recently, I've never believed the time was right. Now, with the extremes that the socialists are pointing to, it's time.

No, I'm wrong. As you said in your post, the time was many moons ago. I felt then that the voting booth was the place to accomplish these things but the problem is, there are too many who won't even do that very easy thing. And yet, these same believe that they will do the hard thing.

They won't. We won't. We have seen that.

Someone posted a meme on here the other day which said something like, "We're near the time which good men will have to do bad things to worse people."

We're likely past that time.

But we're good people. It's tough to decide to do hard things. We also have a lot to lose. We have houses, families, possessions, paychecks, responsibilities and if we do hard things, we risk losing all of that. The socialists have little or nothing to lose and they also have the support of monied, powerful people in high places to support them.

The question becomes, how far do we have to be pushed before it prompts us to act? And what is the right action, anyway?

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If they come to my neighborhood, I'll respond. I won't be going out looking for it, I'm too decrepit for that.
 

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You are absolutely correct. We talk. We don't do.

We feel that it's wrong to take extreme measures to accomplish good things. Until recently, I've never believed the time was right. Now, with the extremes that the socialists are pointing to, it's time.

No, I'm wrong. As you said in your post, the time was many moons ago. I felt then that the voting booth was the place to accomplish these things but the problem is, there are too many who won't even do that very easy thing. And yet, these same believe that they will do the hard thing.

They won't. We won't. We have seen that.

Someone posted a meme on here the other day which said something like, "We're near the time which good men will have to do bad things to worse people."

We're likely past that time.

But we're good people. It's tough to decide to do hard things. We also have a lot to lose. We have houses, families, possessions, paychecks, responsibilities and if we do hard things, we risk losing all of that. The socialists have little or nothing to lose and they also have the support of monied, powerful people in high places to support them.

The question becomes, how far do we have to be pushed before it prompts us to act? And what is the right action, anyway?

--Wag--
very well said.... I agree... someone, everyone concerned about the survival of our country our way of life and our future needs to do something. It takes big balls, a lot of guts, gumption, determination, a willingness to do what has to be done regardless and it takes "want to"... I think "want to" is probably the most important thing here,, One has to WANT TO in order to achieve any success..
My grand dad once told me " Step on someone's toes long enough and hard enough and sooner or later they will get tired of it and stomp back"... Gentlemen,, my toes are damn sore
 
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We certainly do have allot to lose, now more than ever. We had the opportunity when it would have been easy. Now we are banking our future on the election of one man, Trump. Think about that. All this time we had opportunities to get involved on the local level. You know, the level of "it's a pain in the butt" because I have to give up maybe 1 or 2 nights a week to be involved. We decided we would try to vote someone in the local spots to do the work for us. That didn't always work and slowly we kept putting things off. We watched the years go by with changes to local government. School boards changed. Teachers changed. Everything became political right before our eyes; and we kept saying, just wait till the next election - we'll vote some good people in. Yea, that really happened, right?

After decades of this crap the liberals became more vocal, more pushy, more obvious in their efforts to make real hardcore changes to our government......ahhhhh, but we'll just wait till next election, we'll get some good people n office that will clean this crap up. Sure we will....

So much has happened right before our eyes and we KNEW WHAT WAS HAPPENING and still, after decades we stated, wait till nexrt election, we'll get some good people in there. Sure....

Now our back is up against the wall. We have no more options. IMO, this is it. Come November 3rd it is a do or die situation. We are facing an actual change in our government and constitution IF Biden (of any other left) is elected. This is it! If by some chance a miracle happens and we elect Trump, I am fearful people will go back to doing nothing. "WE WON!" will be the voice of the right.....but did we really. Does a Trump victory truly mean we won? I fear we will delay the obvious, we will have won this battle, but the war is far from over. Either way, our lazy asses will suffer, our children will suffer, our grandchildren will suffer if we do not STOP our apathetic attitude that it is up to some one else to fix what's broken. What is truly broken is our heart; to preserve what has been given to us by the sweat and blood of those before us.

What makes us believe we are so righteous that we do not have to fight the enemy to keep what was passed on to us? How can we be so lazy we are willing to hand over our freedoms that has the blood of generations before us all over it?
 

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Even if we get Trump for another four years, the attack will continue. They (the left) are like the taliban, they will never quit.
 

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We need to tune up the guitars, I switch between "Alices Restaurant" by Arlo Guthrie, and "Revolution", by the Beatles...
 

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The question becomes, how far do we have to be pushed before it prompts us to act? And what is the right action, anyway?
That really is the $64,000 question. I would think we have already been pushed far enough to get into action, but it looks like not. The classic answer is that we will act when the pain and fear of not acting outweighs the fear of acting. The problem with that is if we wait that long, it will probably be too late.

I mean, it wouldn't necessarily have to be a lot of action. First, people could just vote. 40 - 60% of eligible voters don't. Heck, if every right thinking person could get just one other right thinking person to the polls that would have stayed home, we could turn this around despite outside money, voter fraud, election interference, etc. because that would be a lot of votes.

If it were a more drastic action, it seems to me the problem for an individual is the probable outcomes. An individual can shoot it out with rioters or cops, but they will eventually lose big and be painted as the bad guy. We don't have an organization or organizations that could effectively coordinate action. And I think if we wait until we need one, it will be too late to put one together that would be workable and durable.
 

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We are still too comfortable. As long as the power stays on, we're not going to do anything. See my prior comments about having too much to lose. When the power goes out, suffering begins, for us and our small children. That's when we break, I think.

You touch on another very valid point which is, there is no leader who can rally people to a cause that will resist the encroachment of socialism. So far, individuals have been able to rise to the cause, at least for the time being, but it seems people are losing hope. As individuals, that is. All too often, I encounter people who believe their vote doesn't matter and a myriad of other ideas which keep them from hoping. And therefore, from acting.

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At the rate the leftists are committing felonies it won't be long before most of them won't be able to get guns....at least legally.
 

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That theory doesn't work in Chicago

or most anyplace else now-a-days in liberal land... besides, who will or can prosecute, judge and try them when they can't keep in jail long enough to bolt the door
 
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People have become sheep. The socialists will win this battle at some point in time because people are stupid, lazy and don’t understand what they will loose. I have said for a long time that you can’t beat the media. They control what people learn and see. They control public opinion. I’ve never understood the liberal mind works. Socialists live in a dream world where all is free and everyone has the same basic income, healthcare, education and you only have to work if you want to. Reality keeps getting in the way but they say that democratic socialism is different. They will find out one day just how different it will be.
 

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People have become sheep. The socialists will win this battle at some point in time because people are stupid, lazy and don’t understand what they will loose. I have said for a long time that you can’t beat the media. They control what people learn and see. They control public opinion. I’ve never understood the liberal mind works. Socialists live in a dream world where all is free and everyone has the same basic income, healthcare, education and you only have to work if you want to. Reality keeps getting in the way but they say that democratic socialism is different. They will find out one day just how different it will be.
Sadly, you are correct. Unfortunately the sheeple refuse to look at history and see how may times the USA has fought against socialism in effort to being freedom to people. Those in socialistic countries must be shaking their heads in wonder.

Not sure if this will sound racist, it isn't. One problem is that we allow people from all over the world into this country. People fleeing from countries in order to enjoy freedom; however, they fail to realize what true freedom is. Our country has been diluted. Couple that with no history being taught (or a perverted history) and we have what we have today.
 
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