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Don't get your hopes up too high. The liberal loons will figure out some other infringement, like $25,000 annual conceal carry permit fees, etc.
 

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Biden's DOJ's response to the Court's ruling.

“We respectfully disagree with the Court’s conclusion that the Second Amendment forbids New York’s reasonable requirement that individuals seeking to carry a concealed handgun must show that they need to do so for self-defense. The Department of Justice remains committed to saving innocent lives by enforcing and defending federal firearms laws, partnering with state, local and tribal authorities and using all legally available tools to tackle the epidemic of gun violence plaguing our communities."
 

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Our constitutional carry starts July 1st. Prior to the new law, I had a lifetime carry permit.

I truly believe we may see more unfortunate disturbances in the near future to "prove" the socialist's stand against the 2A.
 

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If it were a liberal court the libbies would be declaring every apostrophe as Gospel.

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Very curious to see what effect this has on the states that restrict concealed carry (like NJ)
 

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The 6 – 3 ruling was issued on Thursday and the majority opinion was penned by Justice Clarence Thomas, the New York Times reported.

“For those of us who work in marbled halls, guarded constantly by a vigilant and dedicated police force, the guarantees of the Second Amendment might seem antiquated and superfluous,” he said.
“But the Framers made a clear choice:
They reserved to all Americans the right to bear arms for self-defense.”

From Bizarro Biden
“I am deeply disappointed by the Supreme Court’s ruling in New York State Rifle & Pistol Association v. Bruen.
Since 1911, the State of New York has required individuals who would like to carry a concealed weapon in public to show a need to do so for the purpose of self-defense and to acquire a license.
More than a century later, the United States Supreme Court has chosen to strike down
New York’s long-established authority to protect its citizens.
This ruling contradicts both common sense and the Constitution,
and should deeply trouble us all,” the president said.

“I urge states to continue to enact and enforce commonsense laws
to make their citizens and communities safer from gun violence.
As the late Justice Scalia recognized, the Second Amendment is not absolute.
For centuries, states have regulated who may purchase or possess weapons, the types of weapons they may use, and the places they may carry those weapons.
And the courts have upheld these regulations.

“I call on Americans across the country to make their voices heard on gun safety.
Lives are on the line,” he said.

New York Democrat Gov. Kathy Hochul had a similar tantrum.
“Shocking, absolutely shocking that they have taken away our right to have restrictions.
This is New York. We don’t back down, we fight back.
And I’m sorry this dark day has come. That we’re supposed to go back to what was in place since 1788 when the Constitution of United States America was ratified.

 
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Don't get your hopes up too high. The liberal loons will figure out some other infringement, like $25,000 annual conceal carry permit fees, etc.
The irony is if the screechers start peacefully protesting, peacefully looting and peacefully burning.
I think 25K would be pretty close to the definition of a poll tax.
Anything that the courts have ruled is a second step to lawfully carrying a firearm is verboten.
 

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The left pressures law firms to drop clients that they disagree with politically

The two primary attorneys who successfully argued
New York State Rifle & Pistol Association Inc. v. Bruen before the Supreme Court with no clients and no jobs.

Former Solicitor General Paul Clement and Erin Murph
Kirkland & Ellis LLP, one of the largest law firms in the country, is dropping all Second Amendment cases after pressure from clients and other lawyers at the firm.
Through a firm spokesperson, Kirkland confirmed its decision but did not explain its rationale for dropping gun cases.
A key attorney at Kirkland, Jon Ballis, said he hoped the firm could continue to work with Clement and Murphy on matters not related to guns.

“We were given a stark choice: either withdraw from ongoing representations or withdraw from the firm,” Clement said in a statement.
“Anyone who knows us and our views regarding professional responsibility and client loyalty knows there was only one course open to us: We could not abandon ongoing representations just because a client’s position is unpopular in some circles.”

But these days gun-rights advocates are unpopular in the tony precincts of Los Angeles and New York where Kirkland represents business clients.
When it comes to core constitutional rights versus corporate retainers that finance summer homes in the Hamptons, the Constitution is a second-class citizen.

This is the opposite of ethical legal representation.
Clients who are unpopular are the most in need of legal counsel.
Lawyers drop clients who lie or don’t pay their bills.
But Mr. Clement’s gun clients are individuals and state gun groups, such as the New York State Rifle & Pistol Association, which won its case at the High Court on Thursday.
Kirkland is dumping clients who have done nothing wrong and have cases currently in litigation.
As Mr. Clement and Ms. Murphy put it,
“We could not abandon ongoing representations just because a client’s position is unpopular in some circles.”

 

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According to New a Jersey Governor Murphy:
“ It’s tragic but we must live with it.”
“As long as I’m governor, I will fight for your right to be safe from gun violence.”
Today I’m signing an executive order directing all state departments and agencies to review all statutes, rules and regulations to determine what they can do administratively limit the ability to carry firearms.”
No carry in locations where there is a high density of people- stadiums, parks, public transit, schools, hospitals, daycare facilities, government buildings, police stations and polling places. “
“Firearms cannot be carried onto private property unless the owner explicitly states with signage that guns are allowed.”
His administration will be looking to tighten he restrictions on those ho are allowed to buy guns in NJ. “There will be further training necessities and limitations in regulars to who may purchase a firearm and I look forward to signing these into laws.”
In order to get a permit you will need to pass a course designed for drawing from a holster delivered by an NRA ( now he likes the NRA?) certified instructor, you will need to have paperwork signed by that course leader, and you will need to submit proof of ownership of the single weapon you will be able to carry to the state”.

Then he went on the trash Trump and blame him for everything except the sunshine.
The chief of the state police was having a hissy fit. Talking about road rage and about having guns in the hands of people in everyday life being unsafe and dangerous lol.
 

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Murphy's decision about a ban on carrying in areas of high density was specifically mentioned in the decision as not a valid "sensitive area". Schools, courts, government offices etc. are and would continue to be regarded as off-limits. In its entirety SCOTUS drastically reduced governments unjustifiable restrictions. The biggest hurdle will be getting through the 200,000 applications the head of the State Police referred to. Hope springs eternal.
 

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Murphy's decision about a ban on carrying in areas of high density was specifically mentioned in the decision as not a valid "sensitive area". Schools, courts, government offices etc. are and would continue to be regarded as off-limits. In its entirety SCOTUS drastically reduced governments unjustifiable restrictions. The biggest hurdle will be getting through the 200,000 applications the head of the State Police referred to. Hope springs eternal.
200,000 -400,000 applications are expected this year. Forget getting a NJ-NICS check this year. Who’s going to handle all of these application? I already signed up for the NRA holster draw class but the only place offering one says that you have to use a 9mm. Why? I don’t know. I don’t own a 9mm. If I was to carry, I’d have My S&W air weight .38. The gun I use for the course is the “ONE” that I’m supposed to carry. UGH.
 

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I'm going to wait for the rush to die. I've went this long not carrying in Jersey, another 12-24 months isn't going to make a difference to me.
It'll also give time for the kinks to be worked out.
 

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Biden's DOJ's response to the Court's ruling.

“We respectfully disagree with the Court’s conclusion that the Second Amendment forbids New York’s reasonable requirement that individuals seeking to carry a concealed handgun must show that they need to do so for self-defense. The Department of Justice remains committed to saving innocent lives by enforcing and defending federal firearms laws, partnering with state, local and tribal authorities and using all legally available tools to tackle the epidemic of gun violence plaguing our communities."
Isn't Living in New York Proof enough as far as showing a need to carry for self defense?
 
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