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A Loveland, Colorado, junior was suspended from high school pending a police investigation after he went to a shooting range with his mother.

Complete Colorado reports that 16-year-old Nathan Myers was reported anonymously by another student after positing alleged “threatening” material to Snapchat. The alleged “threatening” material was a video of guns Nathan and his mother Justine posted before heading out to the range.

The caption on the video said, “Finna be lit."

Weld County Sheriff Steve Ream spoke to the uproar over Nathan’s video, saying, “People base their apprehension on their own paradigm and their own fear of guns and gun culture. One kid is totally excited to go out and train on how to use a gun responsibly, while another kid is totally freaked out about seeing a gun.”

Bearing Arms reports that Loveland High School–the school suspending Nathan–is operating in line with a program called “Safe 2 Tell.” The program is designed to allow students an avenue to report possible threats.

Sheriff Ream observes Nathan’s plight as a perfect example of the trouble that arises from putting laws in place where people can face punishment or have guns confiscated simply on accusations.




https://www.breitbart.com/politics/...ded-after-shooting-guns-at-range-with-mother/
 

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" Loveland High School–the school suspending Nathan–is operating in line with a program called “Safe 2 Tell.”

It's always a school "administration", "administrator" or some ding-bat "teacher". They will ALL be part of the "Authoritarian Bureaucracy" that will "rule" when the DEMOCRAT-Left takes over.
 

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I hope Nathan and his mother find a barracuda type lawyer and sue the crap out of the school and the snitch.
 

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" Loveland High School–the school suspending Nathan–is operating in line with a program called “Safe 2 Tell.”

It's always a school "administration", "administrator" or some ding-bat "teacher". They will ALL be part of the "Authoritarian Bureaucracy" that will "rule" when the DEMOCRAT-Left takes over.
We need to ensure that your "when" is an "if" or better still; not even a possibility.
 

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Time to sue..............and demand a public written apology fomr the snitch and the school and have the school personnel placed on unpaid leave for a while
 

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This situation clearly shows how dangerous a "red flag" law can be. In this instance there was no "red flag" law involved, but the situation is the same, some one sees the video and immediately gets a panic attack by looking at "scary" guns calls the police to complain because he/she is afraid. End result, a law abiding citizen looses his/her rights over the idiocy of a "snowflake"
 

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Mentioned this here before...but my kids (well, not really kids) are forbidden from posting anything on social media about going to the range or about the firearms in our house.
It has very little to do with sparing snowflake feelings and everything to do with privacy(and retaining the element of surprise).
No one needs to know there's firearms in our house OR that my boys are well versed in using them.

On another note.,,, we are rapidly approaching the end of having to deal with school and to be honest....I cannot F'in wait. Youngest is a junior this year so we effectively have 18 months of school left. Bye Felicia....
 

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On the one hand, we encourage, "see something, say something," on the other, we body-slam the whistle-blower.

Posting that very same video with the very same content, intent and frame of mind on this forum would cause us all to be jealous and reply in a positive way.

It's kinda inherently obvious to the casual observer that right now is not a good time to post stuff like this kid did, to the audience he did.

It's simply a matter of poor judgement.

The kid who reported the video did what we asked of them.

The school did, by way of signed policy, did what we asked of them.

The kid who posted the video will do what we ask of him.

Going forward, other kids will be the wiser.

There was a history, though not very solid:

This is not the first time TVSD and Loveland High School have called into question Nathan and his family ... When Nathan was a freshman, he was caught doodling a Glock 45 in class.

... He was not suspended that time, but school administration required his dad to sign a statement allowing him back into class, Nathan said. He has also been questioned about a Second Amendment sticker on his truck, his mother said.
It's all going to turn out well.
 

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Click bait headline.

Here's the real one:



The language used on this video is ambiguous, but still benign. Though one still has to know their audience.

There weren't any threats made that I could tell. I feel like the lack of information here is what caused the problem. If the video had simply read "Headed to the range" maybe it would have been better.
 

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Hmmm, I see no threat nor 'poor judgement' by the young man who posted the extremely short video. What I do see is an overblown and a knee-jerk overreaction on the part of school officials.
 

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Like I said - lawsuit, suspension or termination, public apology; start doing that to more of these idiot administrators and this crap will stop immediately.
 

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The language used on this video is ambiguous, but still benign. Though one still has to know their audience.

There weren't any threats made that I could tell. I feel like the lack of information here is what caused the problem. If the video had simply read "Headed to the range" maybe it would have been better.
While we all have opinions, the proper authorities are making those determinations.

Not readily available to us is the school policy that parents and students are mandated to abide by regarding social media posts (I know bullying and "sexting" are included along with threats). The police cannot ignore a report. The student is suspended with access to the tools he needs to continue his school work.

It's a nothingburger. Everybody's doing what they are supposed to do.

The kid obviously used poor judgement. It doesn't mean he'll serve a life sentence.
 

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Like I said - lawsuit, suspension or termination, public apology; start doing that to more of these idiot administrators and this crap will stop immediately.
The schools anticipated that strategy years ago. In fact, schools cannot be sued for LACK of action of this level.

Because of governmental immunity, public schools are protected by certain types of lawsuits. Governmental immunity protects the government from interference from lawsuits and makes it easier for the government to make decisions.

However, governmental immunity has its limits. Immunity varies from state to state, but essentially a government agency cannot claim immunity when gross negligence or willful misconduct was involved.
 

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I was fired from a job because on Break Break mind you I was asked about guns I LIKE, I was SOLICITED on my opinion of guns. I had 3-4 I actually discussed and why I choose those...Next Morning I was under investigation for "Work Place Violence" Lost a damned good job....I did nothing WRONG and Neither Did this kid. But screwed by the same fugged system.
 

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Exactly my point! The kid did nothing wrong, made not threats simply posted some online pics from a range session with his mom. That's all it took for some bed wetting hoplophobe to decide the kid posed a threat and over react.
That's one way of looking at it.

As for me, the whole trajectory of events seem to be normal.

An immature kid made a mistake and the adults are responding as they should.

We just discussed an article about how three (3) mass shootings were avoided because of "see something, say something."

In those cases, the suspicions turned out to be real threats. That's not going to happen 100% of the time, but reasonable people are taking reasonable actions regarding OP.
 

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On the one hand, we encourage, "see something, say something," on the other, we body-slam the whistle-blower.

Posting that very same video with the very same content, intent and frame of mind on this forum would cause us all to be jealous and reply in a positive way.

It's kinda inherently obvious to the casual observer that right now is not a good time to post stuff like this kid did, to the audience he did.

It's simply a matter of poor judgement.

The kid who reported the video did what we asked of them.

The school did, by way of signed policy, did what we asked of them.

The kid who posted the video will do what we ask of him.

Going forward, other kids will be the wiser.

There was a history, though not very solid:



It's all going to turn out well.
You got a mouse in your pocket? I didn't ask any of those people to do any of those things.
 
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