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--and other plots and hacking, too! Obama will now hack Russia right back!

Putin has been blamed for 'hacking the US election' and making Hillary lose. Part of that hacking involved the release of emails of Hillary adviser John Podesta. Podesta's emails are part of Pizzagate, making Putin responsible for that, as well. And for the guy who showed up at Comet Ping Pong Pizza with a gun.

Putin also caused the Brexit by hacking the vote. Putin is also flooding Europe with Muslims conducting 'organized sex attacks' in a bid to oust Angela Merkel. That's part of Putin's war on all of Europe which is literally happening already. Sweden is already preparing for WW III because of Putin.

He's involved in a global warming plot, too.

Is there anything that he cannot be blamed for?
 

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Make no mistake, while Vlad Putin is not to blame of everything, he is a formidable man to deal with and is not to be trusted to do anything except advance the cause of Russia dominating the world. The only reason he is not more involved in American affairs is because he cannot do as much damage as the Obama administration and the Liberal DemocRats are already doing.

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Putin. Testing.........testing.............testing,,,,,,,,,,just like Adolph did. Not always him, directly, but testing by any means the "tolerances" and "will" of his adversaries.

And you have to know that Putin became aware that Obama and his Administration, plus our Congress, had been reduced to minor "push-overs" on the World Stage. Take much deserved bows Hillary and John Kerry.

Oh, let's not forget our great trade partner and pesky sources of espionage and military adventurism, China.
 

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One thing that lends a bit of credence to the notion of Russia 'hacking the planet' is its strategic doctrine of 'hybrid war'. I'm not sure the ideas behind it are actually all that new, except that it involves the internet -- a tool not available, for instance, during WW II.

That said, Russia is not in a position to wage hybrid war against the US. The non-internet etc. part of hybrid war is weapons and killing people to gain control of real estate. Russia cannot by any stretch hope to conquer the USA. Might try to nuke it, but you don't need the internet or 'hacking elections' to do that.

It's plausible that Russia might use 'hybrid war' to weaken the political resolve of the USA and its leadership in order to strengthen its position in the Middle East, since Russia is, at least for now, an ally of Syria and Iran.

But, if that's the case, Russia could achieve that goal by backing either Hillary or Trump. It would make no difference. All they'd have to do was deprive the next President of legitimacy. That's all.

The MSM in the USA is doing a better job of that than anything Russia could possibly accomplish.

If anything, Putin hacked the MSM.
 

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In spite of the internet, the most successful politically-motivated hacks involve wetware. It's been that way all the time, and will be that way, like, forever. Karl Marx is possibly the world's most successful wetware hacker, but he might have to share the honor with the New York Times and the Washington Post.
 

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All the Russians did, if they did anything, was expose Clinton for the lying, cheating scoundrel she is. I really have NO problem with that.

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I've watched Putin, and he seems level-headed. He's got a big country to run-the largest in the world.

Maybe, just maybe, we should leave him alone. I'd bet he's got plenty to do.
 
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