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So I dont know much about rifles. Its a family heirloom. The engraving is in cyrillic and says "M. Averin" I think. Next to it is a proof mark, which I couldn't track down.
 

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Averin, is a Russian name.
It is a percussion cap rifle, not sure if an earlier flintlock conversion though.
I am stumped.
That's a break action breech loader like a shotgun. Octagon barrel suggests it's a rifle. There is no nipple, just a hammer and firing pin. If i had to guess i would say some sort of 1870's-80's black powder cartridge rifle. I don't recall seeing any rifles in that type of configuration before (that i remember) but plenty of shotguns.
 
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Take the barrel out of the stock and look closely at the barrel flats underneath as well as the water table - the part of the receiver underneath the barrel, providing clear pictures of any marks, numbers, and letters that you find. Also, please show a photo of the muzzle next to a dime or quarter for size comparison.
 

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That's a break action breech loader like a shotgun. Octagon barrel suggests it's a rifle. There is no nipple, just a hammer and firing pin. If i had to guess i would say some sort of 1870's-80's black powder cartridge rifle. I don't recall seeing any rifles in that type of configuration before (that i remember) but plenty of shotguns.
Oh I see it now, the breech release by his 3rd finger. Good catch i totally missed it.
Guess I better stick to flintlock identifications.
 

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Im dumb, didnt think to check that. Also the barrel is the size of a single cent.

Take the barrel out of the stock and look closely at the barrel flats underneath as well as the water table - the part of the receiver underneath the barrel, providing clear pictures of any marks, numbers, and letters that you find. Also, please show a photo of the muzzle next to a dime or quarter for size comparison.
 

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"M. Averin" may or may not be the maker. It might be the individual who originally ordered the gun.
 

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That wasn't as productive as I had hoped. No markings on the receiver under the barrel? Also, the penny covers the whole bore, which is relatively small. Is it smoothbore or rifled?

The letters under the barrel between the numbers appear to be Cyrillic. Is that correct or am I just seeing it wrong. Unfortunately, I don't know the first thing about Imperial Russian proof marks.
 

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I`d side shot gun the way hammer and firing pin are set up, smaller than .410? Small piece soft lead or a bore cast and measuring calipers. eh either way still an interesting piece
 
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