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Much to the New York Times's surprise, people who live outside Portland in Oregon aren't big fans of the riot-synonymous city. Here's a quote buried way down the bottom of the piece:
“Portland is a garbage dump,” said Ms. Johnson, the resident of Gresham, a half-hour away. “I don’t want anything to do with it.”
It had to have been a surprise.
The piece was done in the context of an impressive anniversary, at least if you're a rioter - the 100th day solid of riots burning through that city.
The Times headline creates that false declivity it's often famous for - interviewing the mugger and the muggee, with that "two lives intersect" template. Their prim headline in this case is:
Which is a little bit of an understatement. Fact is, the reporter found pretty much no one with anything nice to say about Portland. With Antifa and other allied mob elements taking over the city, turning it into a riot-infested hellhole, mostly from a marching army from someplace else, it quite likely isn't anyone born in Oregon. Heck, even Portlanders born elsewhere don't like it.
“I’m a normal person and I don’t have extremist views,” Ms. Crymer said. “Normal people should be able to feel like they can fly an American flag and not get hunted down for it.”
As you may imagine, gun sales in that state are through the roof:
“There’s panic buying every once in a while but nowhere near like this,” Mr. Coleman said at the entrance of his shop, fortified with steel bars. “There’s such a massive rush, people are taking anything they can get.”
And there was nobody they could find to defend the riots to give that "chasm" claim some heft.
Nobody, and you know they looked.

Which shouldn't surprise anyone. An old hedge fund manager 20 years ago told me to not go looking for FARC supporters in the wilds of Colombia because "nobody, the world over, like guerrillas. Nobody." And when I went to Colombia six years later, in 2007, I asked around, and got an earful -- confirming my hedgie pal was right in spades.

Purveyors of civil unrest and property damage and disturbances of peace are despised no matter where they turn up.


Fortunately, the Times report shows that they also see this in Oregon, telling the rest of us somehow, somewhere, there are sane people in Oregon. We all know there must be, for who doesn't like to buy Tillamook cheese and Oregon blueberries? Those are nice products, surely they can't be made by leftists. I like to buy my iris rhizomes (those are the little roots you plant to get big iris blossoms in summer) from a nice little farm in Oregon. I'm gratified to hear that nobody likes what's going on in Portland from those quarters.

Once upon a time, Oregon was a normal place. Now that it's ground zero for leftist lunacy, one can only hope that normal Oregonians get their bearings, pin the blame where it belongs on the Democrats, and one day throws them all out
. It won't happen tomorrow, given the way the urban areas completely render powerless the rural areas - we also see this in California, where tremendous numbers of noncoastal counties always vote red, and are wiped out and treated with contempt by the bluesters.

Same dynamic in Oregon, and we in California commiserate.

One can only wonder what the Times really heard if these quotes from the "Oregon Normals" actually made it to print.

 

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My ex's brother and woife live there. I lost contact with them decades ago, but I know he and his wife are retired Fed workers - bit also now in their late 70s, I would be surprised if they now view Dems in a positive light. He was a hunter and fisherman...........
 

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I know someone that lives in or near Portland and they certainly defend these riots. She also stated on FB that the murder of David Dorn was just part of the "revolution". Scariest part is she is a teacher....
 

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I read somewhere that approximately 65% of Antifa members are secondary school teachers.
 
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I read somewhere that approximately 65% of Antifa members are secondary school teachers.
I think i read that the ones being arrested were a high percentages of teachers but don't recall the number.
 

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I know someone that lives in or near Portland and they certainly defend these riots. She also stated on FB that the murder of David Dorn was just part of the "revolution". Scariest part is she is a teacher....
I live in southern Orygun. Down here we're are normal people. We just tell the Stumptowners to stay there and leave us alone. Every once in awhile some of the trouble makers come down here, but are met by armed locals and the trouble makers all of the sudden remember a previous appointment elsewhere .
 

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15 years ago I spent 6 days in Portland while attending a convention. I thought it was one of the nicest cities I've ever been in (of the 64 countries I've visited). What a shame!
 

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This has got to be affecting property values over the long run. Many in Portland, New York, and Minneapolis are going to lose their asses on their homes. Some equity will turn into zero equity, or else under water for many. Who is going to want to live somewhere everyone is pouring out of? A good indicator is the one way rental cost of a moving van. In California for example, it costs 4 times more to rent one way from California to Texas, than it does in reverse.
 

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Federal police intelligence sources have designated Portland as "the headquarters of Antifa" in America.
 

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The HQ of Antifa, BLM and all the rest is George Soros' office.
 
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My wife's ancestors came to the Willamette Valley of Oregon in covered wagons on the Applegate Cutoff of the Oregon Trail in 1847 and homesteaded. She has several elderly relatives living in the Portland Metro area.

We live a little over fifty miles from Portland. Some of our favorite special occasion restaurants are in downtown Portland very near the riots. We haven't been to one in over three years.

When we visit her relatives, we arm up and go in the morning during the week. We avoid downtown anytime. We get out of Dodge by 2 or 3 pm to avoid the exit rush.

The Democrats in the Oregon Legislature are one seat short of a quorum. The Republicans have to walk out and hide to prevent legislation from passing. If one seat flips, Oregon will be a socialist state as bad or worse than California.

I would move to a different state in a heartbeat, but my wife wants to be near her family and relatives.
 

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My wife's ancestors came to the Willamette Valley of Oregon in covered wagons on the Applegate Cutoff of the Oregon Trail in 1847 and homesteaded. She has several elderly relatives living in the Portland Metro area.

We live a little over fifty miles from Portland. Some of our favorite special occasion restaurants are in downtown Portland very near the riots. We haven't been to one in over three years.

When we visit her relatives, we arm up and go in the morning during the week. We avoid downtown anytime. We get out of Dodge by 2 or 3 pm to avoid the exit rush.

The Democrats in the Oregon Legislature are one seat short of a quorum. The Republicans have to walk out and hide to prevent legislation from passing. If one seat flips, Oregon will be a socialist state as bad or worse than California.

I would move to a different state in a heartbeat, but my wife wants to be near her family and relatives.
You can always go and visit, OR, they could come and visit you at your new lake house in northern Idaho
 

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I believe that Oregon got that way by the infusion of Commiefornian people who left their state because. drum roll, high taxes, high housing costs, poor government management, and completed disregard for peoples rights.
These imports, as soon as they got to Oregon, immediately started working to get Oregon to look like Commiefornia, they want to change Oregon into The New People's Republic of Oregon.
I just read that about 1000 people moves into Florida every day. Taking into consideration that the majority are comming from New York, Illinois, New Jersey, Massachusetts, means that, before long, Florida will turn into another lousy blue state
 
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I was 10 years old when a company transfer by my Dad's company put us into Portland in 1957. Oregon and Portland had the beginnings of "liberal reputations" according to my Dad. It had nothing to do with California,,,,,,,,,,,before it became Kalifornia.

It is very foolish to blame all things "Liberal" on one state. Homegrown Liberals and DEMOCRATS exist in all 50 states.
 

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True, but the really looney ideas all seem to come from CA or NY. There's an old saying that when CA sneezes, the rest of the country catches a cold soon afetr
 

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Too bad for you, as it has been proven many times that the majority of political, fashion and other societal trends start in CA.
 
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