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https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/white-house-weighs-controversial-plan-on-mental-illness-and-mass-shootings/ar-AAH2rhr?ocid=mailsignout

Now I am starting to wonder who is it with mental illness around here. Me Or these Wackos, who have gone absolutely delusional.

This is the kind of society the second amendment was designed to allow us to protect ourselves from. I can not even comprehend how they think they can track behavior that is not unique to mental illness that has not happened yet, when the way we respond to stressors is as numerous as the grains of sand covering the earth.
 

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by their way of thinking, That means every mass murder was committed by a mentally deranged person and groups of people. and even if you are open minded the death toll for amazons delivery system would have to count and the entire leadership of amazon is mentally ill too.
side note about the death toll from amazon delivery system https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/the-human-cost-of-amazons-fast-free-shipping/ar-AAGPmZv?ocid=mailsignout because amazon put profit before safety by maliciously insulating themselves as being NOT responsible via contract, when they still push and control the delivery system they are using via contractors.
 

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Human life is precious. For any person to choose to take a human life not in the defense of their own life or the life of another, I could even allow for the defense of property, is insane. No person commits a murder who is not mentally ill. It is absolutely a mental defect to have so little regard for the life of another and for the effects on the loved ones of their victims.

That doesn't mean they don't know right from wrong, or understand the law and consequences, or that they should not suffer the consequences of their actions.
 

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Human life is precious. For any person to choose to take a human life not in the defense of their own life or the life of another, I could even allow for the defense of property, is insane. No person commits a murder who is not mentally ill. It is absolutely a mental defect to have so little regard for the life of another and for the effects on the loved ones of their victims.

That doesn't mean they don't know right from wrong, or understand the law and consequences, or that they should not suffer the consequences of their actions.
Are you a Psychologist or Psychiatrist? In my personal life and what I've been through, you know NOT what you are talking about
 

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I am of the opinion that, except in the case of professional killers, an aberrant state of mind is necessary for a human to commit murder. This aberration may be permanent or it may be temporary. I also believe this state of mind is usually emotionally driven although other factors may be involved ie: physical brain trauma, alcohol, drugs, etc.
 

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I am of the opinion that, except in the case of professional killers, an aberrant state of mind is necessary for a human to commit murder. This aberration may be permanent or it may be temporary. I also believe this state of mind is usually emotionally driven although other factors may be involved ie: physical brain trauma, alcohol, drugs, etc.


What about planned out premeditated murder? Love, jealousy and money are why many murders are committed too. Also many are committed to cover up other crimes. I don't think many of these people are mentally ill in the way we normally think they are. yes they probably lack apathy but they aren't looney tunes.
 

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What about planned out premeditated murder? Love, jealousy and money are why many murders are committed too. Also many are committed to cover up other crimes. I don't think many of these people are mentally ill in the way we normally think they are. yes they probably lack apathy but they aren't looney tunes.
This aberration may be permanent or it may be temporary. I also believe this state of mind is usually emotionally driven
 

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Are you a Psychologist or Psychiatrist? In my personal life and what I've been through, you know NOT what you are talking about
If you kill someone, you're mentally ill - either long term or temporarily. Period. From your response, I have to ask if you're contemplating murdering someone? What is it in your life that and what you've been through that would make you imply you have murder in your future? Because if you don't have plans for that in your future then I wasn't talking about you, was I? So, if the shoe fits, wear it.
 

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What about planned out premeditated murder? Love, jealousy and money are why many murders are committed too. Also many are committed to cover up other crimes. I don't think many of these people are mentally ill in the way we normally think they are. yes they probably lack apathy but they aren't looney tunes.
It is a mental defect that would allow a person to make such a bad choice. It's mental illness. They may not be retarded, or idiotic. They may not be bi-polar, or psychopathic. But just because their illness does not have a name we are all aware of doesn't mean it isn't so. As I said. Human life is precious. Anyone who doesn't get that is mentally ill.
 

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If mentally ill people are the only ones who murder, then what you are saying is all criminals who murder are mentally ill and shouldn't kill.

If you kill someone, you're mentally ill - either long term or temporarily. Period. From your response, I have to ask if you're contemplating murdering someone? What is it in your life that and what you've been through that would make you imply you have murder in your future? Because if you don't have plans for that in your future then I wasn't talking about you, was I? So, if the shoe fits, wear it.

I have and would kill again if my life depends on it. Have you? Combat? Been accosted and defended yourself? You would rather die than to kill to save your own ass?

I wear my shoes and skin both nobly and proud!! Have NEVER done anything that I was ashamed of!! Just what I had to do to survive.

I live by Be Prepared--Adapt--Overcome. Your thoughts on murder come from the Bible and Jesus wasn't even perfect and we all know that.
 
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