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It is most definitely not what I had planned this spring. Now that I have sold my other house, I need to get the building out back weather tight. I have an entire house full of stuff packed into this one and a 20’ box trailer. I need that 40’ building completed, and I’ll be damned if my guns are going out there.

So I decided this morning, I’m confiscating the “walk-in closet”. I believe it’s probably an old maid’s quarters. 11’x8’. A lot of these old houses had them. Second story where the boys sleep, dubbing as a safe room (however, there’ll be no safes in it due to the weight).

It was packed full of crap, so you couldn’t actually walk in it more than 3ft. We cleaned house and stuffed whatever would fit in the guest room on the first floor.

This was right before I started ripping crap off the walls. Wife had no idea I was going to do this, neither did I though. I told her I can do this for $1500 or the vault for $15000. Choice was hers.

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Bought a steel deadbolt door, electronic locks, and plan to get one of those barricades that lifts up out of the floor. Walls are drywall, plaster and laves, another layer of plaster and laces, drywall, 3/4” plywood and another layer of drywall. Once your in there, no one else is coming in. Plenty of guns and ammo inside while they wait for the police to arrive.

Got new wood floors, 4x8 sheets of pegboard for the side walls. Still need trim and lighting.

Plan to do away with the display case and take everything inside of them and build it into the end wall up here. This will have to do while I wait for yet another year to build the one I want.

I’ll use the big safes as ammo storage so I will have to build the shelving inside sometime in the next two weeks. The 88 gun is sitting on a concrete floor and the big Liberty is sitting on an outside wall right over the beam in the house so they should be good for weight bearing. I’ll keep plenty enough ammo up in the armory to keep the zombies at bay until the cavalry arrives.

I expect to have this completed by end of next weekend.
 

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I know a guy who did this in his house last year. He couldn't do the steel either and it's also an old farm house with plaster/lath and then a newer walls over it. One thing that stuck in my mind that he did was get one of those cheap disposable burner phones you don't need a plan with(just a minutes card) and keep it in the room and plugged in and also make sure you have service in there as well. He also has 2 heavy flat steel bars on the inside to put in front of the doors so it can't be kicked in.
Yes, barricades on the door. I have been looking for slide bolts so there is nothing to pick up, just slide them closed. Lag bolted to two studs on either side. You'd have to kick the whole wall down to get the door open. I have extra phones that should be able to make 911 calls even without service. need to look into how that's done so everyone knows in the event no one grabs a phone. Going to route all security cameras to that room so they can see where intruders are, what they are doing.
My gun room/loading room is on the second floor. I have all the weight against the walls. Most of it is on the outer walls. Same deal here the horse hair plaster and lath. And good ole southern pine. I check below the room now and then for cracks in the ceiling and walls.
Two walls are outside walls. My thoughts were, no one is going to climb a ladder and try to open the side of the house... unlike a first floor room with windows. The inside corner of that room sits over the ceiling fan in my kitchen so other than the guns, no additional weight on those two walls. I am looking into fiberglass panels that are bullet proof but I don't know how much they weigh yet. $3600 for a 4x10 panel. They aren't cheap.
 

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Any cell phone can call 911 even if it has no SIM card installed so you can use one of your old phones. What about a few kevlar panels for some ballistic protection?
I found some level 3 ballistic drywall. $630/4x9 sheet. Won’t happen right now but it’s worth adding to the list. Level IV intrusion resistant, whatever that means. I’ll only have to take down one long wall to put it in. Won’t be anything hanging on the other wall. It’ll stop pistol rounds. I found some steel plates designed to prevent the frame from giving. Bolt into the studs and replace the strike plates. Like 4’ long.
Bullits through floor and walls is what I'm getting at. Just saying not a safe room to be in.
True but I’ll be able to see everything they are doing outside that room, including where they are standing. If their bullets can come in, mine can go out. Most people are going to give up when they can’t get in.
 

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Removing old hardwood because it was only partially done.
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Just a weight test to see if the pegboard would bow in under weight.
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New floor installed and car siding on the back wall where the revolvers and stuff go.
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Steel door installed and locks. Need a lot of upgrades yet to harden that door.
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I used the hardwood 1x’s from inside the room to shim the frame on both sides so it’s solidly fit. Need to get the Armor Max kit tomorrow (assuming I can get away). They claim their kit can withstand the battering ram.
 

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Ran out of boards to mount pegboard…
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I spent the last 3 hours pulling everything out of the glass cases. Hung 6 rows shelving supports, carried up all the guns and glass shelves (let me tell you something, those damn things are heavy!) and realized I can’t find the shelf brackets for the 12” deep shelves. So all the shelves are sitting on the floor because those 12” shelves go on the bottom and I have to stair step them up the wall. I hurt too bad to go back up for a second pic.

Panoramic view from earlier while paint was drying.
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The room is primarily for the guns. We have an escape route plan if needed. The question is, what if they can’t get out? Is it better to be in a room with they can’t get in or wait for someone to kick the bedroom door in? I’m going to go with a fortified room. It’s only necessary until the police get here to deal with the problem. That could be as long as 20-30 minutes. A lot can happen in that time. I’d rather there be access to guns and a barrier between them and an intruder than nothing at all.

I have 9 dogs out here, the pups are already half the size of their mom and growing fast. By June, they’ll all be full grown. I have no doubt that they’d make short work of someone trying to hurt the boys but they have to be able to get to them. I’m in a 3 story house there’s no escape from 2 sides. Dogs can’t climb walls to come in a second or third story window.
 

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This what ya looking for?

Right bracket, wrong support. These have slotted steel c-channel made by Reeve. One shelf weighs about 40lbs. It would rip the pegboard off the wall.

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Progress pics… I saved all the scrap pegboard in case I needed it. Well, I’m gonna need it. We’re not even at half yet.

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As I said, need one more glass shelf in the middle there and brackets for the deeper shelves that go at the bottom. I can get brackets that will work from Menards. I’ll have to order the glass. 3/8” thick tempered glass ain’t easy to come by. When I pickup the shelf supports, I’ll pickup all the trim to hide those silver supports in the background and the door reinforcements and more boards to hand the rest of the pegboard.
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Damn, you work fast! I wish I had a room I could do that with. I would have to build one in the basement if i wanted to do that.
You’d need a dehumidifier 24x7. Moisture vapor continually seeps through concrete. Even when you don’t see it. Used to pull a gallon out of the air everyday in my sister’s basement and it’s a walkout built in the side of a hill. Then there’s always a chance of actual water.
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A chair and a black mini fridge I already have.

I have to stop here. Max’s birthday is tomorrow and they are celebrating today and tomorrow. I’m going to stop and pickup some stuff tonight like shelf brackets and the kit to fortify this door but otherwise, construction stops until probably next weekend. I need a break.
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Wow it's looking great! Sure beats having your guns stashed in a safe. And getting banged up taking them in and out.
Just fortunate enough to have a couple extra rooms. The way I setup my safes, there’s not really any banging them up. Which reminds me, I need to reach out to little brother and see if he wants some of my wall locks.
 

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Got one side of the door painted… what a nightmare. I went with hammered black. Figured I could roller paint the frame and get the same basic texture, only what went on was a titanium color. Paint I was using was Rustoleum Universal Hammered Black. Problem is, the frame paint I got was Rustoleum Painters Touch, which is black. Got the bright idea to get a few cans of that in spray cans and go over the hammered paint, keep the texture. I had forgotten, there is something in the hammered paint that causes it to texture like that, even another color of the same type won’t cover it up (lesson learned from the horseshoe gun racks but completely forgotten). Long story longer, what I ended up with was badly cracked black paint over titanium gray hammered. It was bad.

So today I got the bright idea to strip it all off and start over, right? Wrong. I got the strongest stripper Rural king had and even though that hammered paint needed another 36 hours to fully cure, that stripper barely put a dent in it. I ended up wire brushing half of it off and a metal scrapper to get the rest. Copper scratch pad to get most of the stubborn off and smooth it out. After I got the black paint on, I could see how much damage I had done trying to get the old off.

So, after all that, I went back to the hammered black (titanium color like it was). Sent the wife into RK to grab another 5 cans. I went to put the new cans of Hammered black on and it was actually black, or really close to it. Talk about tick a guy off… got 90% of that one side I had been working on this whole time and… drip… drip… drip… now I have big drip marks to sand out. I’m about to strap this door to some tannerite and go buy a new one…

Sticks out like a sore thumb.
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