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If you ever doubted the BS that the Gun Grabbers fling around when talking about the "epidemic of gun violence that plagues the United States" you were right to doubt such anti-gun, anti-freedom propaganda.

Here are the MURDERS PER 100,000 CITIZENS PER YEAR stats from the World Health Organization.

These stats throw ice water on the flaming liberal agenda of gun control...

From the World Health Organization:

Murders per 100,000 citizens per year.

Honduras 91.6 (WOW!)

El Salvador 69.2

Cote d'lvoire 56.9

Jamaica 52.2

Venezuela 45.1

Belize 41.4

US Virgin Islands 39.2

Guatemala 38.5

Saint Kitts and Nevis 38.2

Zambia 38.0

Uganda 36.3

Malawi 36.0

Lesotho 35.2

Trinidad and Tobago 35.2

Colombia 33.4

South Africa 31.8

Congo 30.8

Central African Republic 29.3

Bahamas 27.4

Puerto Rico 26.2

Saint Lucia 25.2

Dominican Republic 25.0

Tanzania 24.5

Sudan 24.2

Saint Vincent and the Grenadines 22.9

Ethiopia 22.5

Guinea 22.5

Dominica 22.1

Burundi 21.7

Democratic Republic of the Congo 21.7

Panama 21.6

Brazil 21.0

Equatorial Guinea 20.7

Guinea-Bissau 20.2

Kenya 20.1

Kyrgyzstan 20.1

Cameroon 19.7

Montserrat 19.7

Greenland 19.2

Angola 19.0

Guyana 18.6

Burkina Faso 18.0

Eritrea 17.8

Namibia 17.2

Rwanda 17.1

Mexico 16.9

Chad 15.8

Ghana 15.7

Ecuador 15.2

North Korea 15.2

Benin 15.1

Sierra Leone 14.9

Mauritania 14.7

Botswana 14.5

Zimbabwe 14.3

Gabon 13.8

Nicaragua 13.6

French Guiana 13.3

Papua New Guinea 13.0

Swaziland 12.9

Bermuda 12.3

Comoros 12.2

Nigeria 12.2

Cape Verde 11.6

Grenada 11.5

Paraguay 11.5

Barbados 11.3

Togo 10.9

Gambia 10.8

Peru 10.8

Myanmar 10.2

Russia 10.2

Liberia 10.1

Costa Rica 10.0

Nauru 9.8

Bolivia 8.9

Mozambique 8.8

Kazakhstan 8.8

Senegal 8.7

Turks and Caicos Islands 8.7

Mongolia 8.7

British Virgin Islands 8.6

Cayman Islands 8.4

Seychelles 8.3

Madagascar 8.1

Indonesia 8.1

Mali 8.0

Pakistan 7.8

Moldova 7.5

Kiribati 7.3

Guadeloupe 7.0

Haiti 6.9

Timor-Leste 6.9

Anguilla 6.8

Antigua and Barbuda 6.8

Lithuania 6.6

Uruguay 5.9

Philippines 5.4

Ukraine 5.2

Estonia 5.2

Cuba 5.0

Belarus 4.9

Thailand 4.8

Suriname 4.6

Laos 4.6

Georgia 4.3

Martinique 4.2

And ..........The United States 4.2

(Take out the historically Democrat controlled, strict gun control cities of New York, Washington DC, Detroit, Chicago, Oakland, St. Louis, where the Black on Black murder rate has been out control for YEARS and the murder rate per 100,000 American Citizens drops to LESS THAN 2.)

ALL (109) of the countries above America, HAVE 100% gun bans.
 

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I have been looking at these type of statistics for years so it's nothing new to me. I often use them when debating people on gun control and the most common response is they are talking about "civilized" or "industrial" countries. I usually come back with so you don't think these people are civilized? Why do you want them to come here then? Also to note that yes many of those countries have strict gun control but the 100% ban i do believe is 100% false. Another thing to note is not all those murders are done with guns which is why the liberals use the term "gun deaths". In fact many of those countries actually have a low gun death rate which they are quick to point out.They sort of get upset when i tell them they aren't concerned with murder but just one way a person is murdered. I guess being hacked to death with machetes is perfectly acceptable as long as you don't use a gun. Not sure what year the 4.2 number was but it think it was back in the early 2000's as we are slightly higher around a 5 +/- and we have been hovering around that number for about 20 years. Either way that little fluctuation is not much in the grand scheme given the size of our population. I did figure out the numbers a few years back and yes if you removed the murders from just 10 cities it would decrease our murders by 1/3 and i think it was 20 or so cities would bring it well under half.
Did you notice that many of those countries on the list or what many consider tropical paradise vacation destinations where the rich and famous often frequent on a regular basis?
 

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If you ever doubted the BS that the Gun Grabbers fling around when talking about the "epidemic of gun violence that plagues the United States" you were right to doubt such anti-gun, anti-freedom propaganda.

Here are the MURDERS PER 100,000 CITIZENS PER YEAR stats from the World Health Organization.

These stats throw ice water on the flaming liberal agenda of gun control...

From the World Health Organization:

Murders per 100,000 citizens per year.

Honduras 91.6 (WOW!)

El Salvador 69.2

Cote d'lvoire 56.9

Jamaica 52.2

Venezuela 45.1

Belize 41.4

US Virgin Islands 39.2

Guatemala 38.5

Saint Kitts and Nevis 38.2

Zambia 38.0

Uganda 36.3

Malawi 36.0

Lesotho 35.2

Trinidad and Tobago 35.2

Colombia 33.4

South Africa 31.8

Congo 30.8

Central African Republic 29.3

Bahamas 27.4

Puerto Rico 26.2

Saint Lucia 25.2

Dominican Republic 25.0

Tanzania 24.5

Sudan 24.2

Saint Vincent and the Grenadines 22.9

Ethiopia 22.5

Guinea 22.5

Dominica 22.1

Burundi 21.7

Democratic Republic of the Congo 21.7

Panama 21.6

Brazil 21.0

Equatorial Guinea 20.7

Guinea-Bissau 20.2

Kenya 20.1

Kyrgyzstan 20.1

Cameroon 19.7

Montserrat 19.7

Greenland 19.2

Angola 19.0

Guyana 18.6

Burkina Faso 18.0

Eritrea 17.8

Namibia 17.2

Rwanda 17.1

Mexico 16.9

Chad 15.8

Ghana 15.7

Ecuador 15.2

North Korea 15.2

Benin 15.1

Sierra Leone 14.9

Mauritania 14.7

Botswana 14.5

Zimbabwe 14.3

Gabon 13.8

Nicaragua 13.6

French Guiana 13.3

Papua New Guinea 13.0

Swaziland 12.9

Bermuda 12.3

Comoros 12.2

Nigeria 12.2

Cape Verde 11.6

Grenada 11.5

Paraguay 11.5

Barbados 11.3

Togo 10.9

Gambia 10.8

Peru 10.8

Myanmar 10.2

Russia 10.2

Liberia 10.1

Costa Rica 10.0

Nauru 9.8

Bolivia 8.9

Mozambique 8.8

Kazakhstan 8.8

Senegal 8.7

Turks and Caicos Islands 8.7

Mongolia 8.7

British Virgin Islands 8.6

Cayman Islands 8.4

Seychelles 8.3

Madagascar 8.1

Indonesia 8.1

Mali 8.0

Pakistan 7.8

Moldova 7.5

Kiribati 7.3

Guadeloupe 7.0

Haiti 6.9

Timor-Leste 6.9

Anguilla 6.8

Antigua and Barbuda 6.8

Lithuania 6.6

Uruguay 5.9

Philippines 5.4

Ukraine 5.2

Estonia 5.2

Cuba 5.0

Belarus 4.9

Thailand 4.8

Suriname 4.6

Laos 4.6

Georgia 4.3

Martinique 4.2

And ..........The United States 4.2

(Take out the historically Democrat controlled, strict gun control cities of New York, Washington DC, Detroit, Chicago, Oakland, St. Louis, where the Black on Black murder rate has been out control for YEARS and the murder rate per 100,000 American Citizens drops to LESS THAN 2.)

ALL (109) of the countries above America, HAVE 100% gun bans.
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It gets reported by the liberal media that it’s a major health problem and it’s all because of the guns. They say we need to catch up to the rest of the civil, modern, progressive world. It’s all a matter of twisting and sensationalism to push a narrative. These alarmists should come up with a criminal gun use idea we can all get behind. Something like possession of an illegal gun, illegally purchasing or criminal use, lying on a 4473, (hint, hint) would be met with severe and mandatory punishments. Along with these new laws would be constitutional carry, removal of any registration or magazine limits. They give, we give. Make criminals, criminals again.
 
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