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Media Are Giddy About a Looming Recession, But Here's What Real Economists Are Saying

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Guy Benson
Aug 22, 2019

A few caveats to start, regarding causes for concern. First, trade uncertainty is undoubtedly contributing to market jitters, with companies and job creators looking anxiously at the possibility of a related slowdown. President Trump is largely responsible for this, perhaps jeopardizing the economic progress advanced by some of his successful policies, such as tax reform and deregulation. Then again, there's a bipartisan consensus on getting tougher with China, and the Democrat-held House could do its part to inject more certainty on the trade front by allowing a vote on the Trump-approved USMCA, sometimes known as New NAFTA. Second, there are some signs of a global slowdown, which could drag down the US, even if our economy is relatively strong. Third, this reliable recession indicator did set off alarm bells last week, understandably so; but it has stabilized since, with markets breathing a sigh of relief. So let's keep the more optimistic news rolling:

via CNBC

Key business activity indexes for New York and Philadelphia pointed to continued expansion in August amid worries that the U.S.-China trade war was dampening growth prospects, according to two reports released Thursday. The Empire State Manufacturing Survey had been expected to show a reading of 0.5 while the Philadelphia Fed Business Outlook Survey was projected at 8, according to economists surveyed by Dow Jones. Both readings were well above those expectations, with the New York gauge posting a 4.8 reading and Philadelphia 16.8. To be sure, both were declines from July readings, but they were solidly in growth territory. The indexes measure businesses reporting expansion against those contracting.​

Also via CNBC, there's this story, which significantly downplays the likelihood of a coming recession, highlighting robust US consumer spending:

The U.S. and global economy should avoid a recession in 2020, with a combination of strong retail sales, potential monetary policy easing and service sector robustness expected to mitigate slowing growth, according to several leading economists...However, underlying factors across major economies indicate that recession fears may be overblown, economists have suggested...Strong retail sales figures for July suggested that U.S. consumers are continuing to prop up the economy, partially offsetting the drag on business confidence from the U.S.-China trade conflict. Sales climbed 0.7% month-on-month in July, a fifth successive increase, reiterating the American consumer’s role in providing lifeblood to the economy. A note from UBS Global CIO Mark Haefele on Monday said this reinforces belief that the U.S. economy should avoid a recession. Assuming no trade war escalation, UBS has assigned just a 25% chance that the U.S. economy will contract for two consecutive quarters in 2020.​

Retail sales also cranked up in July. Finally, second quarter US productivity came in at a "healthy" clip:

U.S. productivity increased at a decent pace in the second quarter, a trend that could lead to higher wages if it continues. The Labor Department said Thursday that productivity – or output per hour worked – rose 2.3% in the April-June quarter, down from 3.5% in the first three months of the year. The first quarter gain was the best in four years. Greater productivity is a key ingredient in raising living standards. It enables companies to lift worker pay without raising prices on costumers. The recovery, now in its 11th year, has been held back by historically weak productivity growth. It has grown at roughly two-thirds of its historical average since the recession began. Yet productivity has picked up in recent quarters and expanded 1.8% in the past year. That’s below the 2.1% long-term annual average, but better than the 1.3% average increase since the recession began in 2007.​

Add in consistently and historically low unemployment, plus steady wage gains (not caused by this), and several key economic fundamentals appear to be holding up rather well. This may come as sad news for certain leftists openly rooting for a painful and damaging (but Trump-harming!) recession, and perhaps taking the air out of a story that many in the media have been hyping. In other words, some caution is warranted, but everyone should take a breath.
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Saying recession enough times can cause a recession.
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Saying recession enough times can cause a recession.
Yeah, Think that's what the "Media" want to make happen.

But just remember - Tariffs don't cause recessions!
The fundamentals are in place for continued growth and prosperity.
“But just remember - Tariffs don't cause recessions!”

You get that from the chosen one?

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It's a fire sale out in the stock market right now. Companies which had good stock valuations are still good valuations but much better than before.

As Warren Buffett has said in the past, "When everyone is buying, sell. When everyone is selling, buy."

Trump's tweet that American companies source their stuff from other places besides China is actually what companies were going to do anyway. They're not stupid, of course, they would. Not only that, but with the U.S. putting tariffs on Chinese goods, more companies will build their stuff here in the U.S., not China which creates greater employment opportunity for all of us and then some.

You can bet that on an individual level, the Dems are excited that someone finally had the cajones to do all of this with China because THEY sure don't! :wink: They're just too chicken.

It's probably a little soon to get into any of these stocks just yet but my crystal ball is out for repairs and I can't say for sure. Day traders are probably having a field day, as are short-sellers (who are exiting their positions like mad right now, I'm willing to bet).

Yesterday's decline and the declines of the prior weeks are absolutely nothing in the overall scheme of things. 2% drop? Not even worth a second thought except for the opportunities it creates to buy valuable stocks for even better value! If we get a 10% drop in a day, then I might get a bit worried.

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The market drops 3% and the gamblers all short sell.
This is like getting on a plane and hoping it crashes.
“But just remember - Tariffs don't cause recessions!”

You get that from the chosen one?

No - Everyone should know that tariffs don't cause recessions!

It's the truth - Can you not handle the truth?
Only the MSM could get "giddy" over the possibility of a "looming recession". I mean, how freaking insane and mentally corrupt does one have to be to think like that?
Only a liberal could wish financial hardships on their neighbors just to win an election, just to beat Trump.
Too bad we can't have a precision/surgical recession that only affects liberals
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