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A judge in Nevada has approved a total of $800 million in payouts from casino company MGM Resorts International and its insurers to more than 4,400 relatives and victims of the Las Vegas Strip shooting that was the deadliest in recent U.S. history.

Clark County District Court Judge Linda Bell on Wednesday signed off on the deal announced earlier this month that settles dozens of lawsuits on the eve of the third anniversary of the shooting that killed 58 people and injured more than 850 among a crowd of 22,000 at an open-air concert near the Mandalay Bay resort.

MGM Resorts, the owner of the Mandalay Bay, acknowledged no liability. It will pay $49 million, while insurance companies will pay $751 million under the settlement.

Attorney Robert Eglet said the amounts disbursed will be determined by two retired judges and he is hopeful that payments will begin going out to claimants by the end of the year.





 

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how in the heck was mgm liable to begin with????
perhaps i should had sued Dodge when that idiot drunk drive wrecked into me years back....
 
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But the main question still not answered: Why this happens? and in addition: What was the reason of why someone broke a window in a hotel and started to fire at a festival full of people? What the police know that are not revealing? Was the hotel at fault due to its lack of security?
Questions, questions, questions and not a lot of answers.
But we need to take all weapons from the hands of private law abiding citizens.............
 

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The only thing i can think of was he was bringing up lots of baggage to his room and no one caught on. I guess everyone who travels heavy is some sort of crazy mass murderer and should be searched by hotels?
 

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I fail to see where the hotel or the insurance co. is an anyway responsible for the act of a madman. They had no part in it. They had no knowledge of the weapons or his actions. I’d love to see the reason behind this finding.
 

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C'mon.......this story has been broadcast the proverbial "gazillion times" and video shown of the POS hauling baggage load after baggage load up to his room over several days. And all during this slow but steady activity, no one employed by the hotel did one thing to ask about or investigate his behavior.

Once he had all the guns and ammo in place, the answers to all his subsequent actions, his motives for what he did.......all died with him. End of story.

The $800 Million fine is for negligence and the resultant endangerment.

Too bad the federal DOJ idiots couldn't have been as thorough in assigning blame and fines following the Wall St. melt down. One bank made the sacrificial lamb for that entire fiasco. And the determined fine in that case went directly to Obama's and Holder's favorite black charity rather than to the U.S. Treasury. Remember that?
 

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C'mon.......this story has been broadcast the proverbial "gazillion times" and video shown of the POS hauling baggage load after baggage load up to his room over several days. And all during this slow but steady activity, no one employed by the hotel did one thing to ask about or investigate his behavior.
I think you need to think real, real hard about what you just said and the ramifications of holding innocent people liable for the actions of lunatics.
 

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I think you need to think real, real hard about what you just said and the ramifications of holding innocent people liable for the actions of lunatics.
Pretty sure it was sarcasm but i could be wrong.
 
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The Fed's and local police in Las Vegas have in their custody HOURS OF HOTEL LOBBY AND HALLWAY SECURITY CAMERA VIDEO OF THE KILLER HAULING BAGS UP TO HIS ROOM OVER THE COURSE OF SEVERAL DAYS AND NIGHTS. No hotel employees or security personnel questioned or intervened. I just watched another program of these "FACTS" but a week ago.

It doesn't require myself or anyone to "think real, real hard" to draw conclusions as to why the hotel was eventually blamed for negligence in this incident by the Federal District judge. The people responsible for the security of the casino/hotel and safety of the public as it related to the facility just plain were not vigilant nor did they do their jobs. It goes to "responsibility of discovery" which was avoided or neglected by those who should have been "on duty or on their game."

Nowhere in my writing did I assert blame for pulling triggers to the hotel or security staff or accuse any innocent people of the actions of a deranged maniac. His actions and responsibility for them were his alone. Please pay attention to what is written. It is easy to misread, but think and re-read before making accusations that don't apply.
 

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The Fed's and local police in Las Vegas have in their custody HOURS OF HOTEL LOBBY AND HALLWAY SECURITY CAMERA VIDEO OF THE KILLER HAULING BAGS UP TO HIS ROOM OVER THE COURSE OF SEVERAL DAYS AND NIGHTS. No hotel employees or security personnel questioned or intervened. I just watched another program of these "FACTS" but a week ago.

It doesn't require myself or anyone to "think real, real hard" to draw conclusions as to why the hotel was eventually blamed for negligence in this incident by the Federal District judge. The people responsible for the security of the casino/hotel and safety of the public as it related to the facility just plain were not vigilant nor did they do their jobs. It goes to "responsibility of discovery" which was avoided or neglected by those who should have been "on duty or on their game."

Nowhere in my writing did I assert blame for pulling triggers to the hotel or security staff. Please pay attention to what is written. It is easy to misread, but think and re-read before making accusations that don't apply.
Nope, I read it right. Where is it written that a private company, in this case, a casino, is responsible in any way to do what you assert they failed to do. The perception of that responsibility does not make it so. If you are standing in line at the bank and the guy behind you pulls out a gun and shoots you in the back while attempting to rob it, is it the banks fault? How about a gas station robbery? how about the folks that rented him the car. Are they responsible because they didn't investigate.
 

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I bought a few thousand in MGM stock after the China virus hit, among others, anticipating a quick return to pre-coronavirus levels when things start returning to normal, the new normal. Hope this doesn't put too big a crimp in my portfolio. My plans were short term like a year maybe two.
 
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I Just looked up some stats on the Mandalay bay hotel. There are 3,209 rooms and 24 elevators. I can't find how many employees or entrances there are. There are probably hundreds of people who work multiple over lapping shifts. More than likely there are multiple entrances that can be used with a key card once checked in I think it would be ludicrous to blame them for not noticing a guy bringing luggage into a hotel in multiple trip who probably never walked past the same person twice. Now if it were the motel 6 with 30 rooms and one person at the desk they might find it odd and question it but in a luxury hotel it's probably common for people to bring in large loads of luggage.
 

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The bottom line is that the security in those casinos is to protect the casino, not the guest, not the venue next door, no matter how we feel about it. If for any reason the security thought that guy was a threat to the casino they would have taken his ass out quickly, that includes stockpiling guns and ammo.
 

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"..........a total of $800 million in payouts from casino company MGM Resorts International and its insurers to more than 4,400 relatives and victims of the Las Vegas Strip shooting......."

"MGM Resorts, the owner of the Mandalay Bay, acknowledged no liability. It will pay $49 million, while insurance companies will pay $751 million under the settlement."


"...........acknowledged no liability. It will pay $49 million.........."

Obviously because MGM just feels "generous", not responsible. The representative insurance companies also feel $751 Million worth of "generous", as well.

Call it anything you like, look at it any way you want. That's still "$800 Million of irresponsibility"! Ask the survivors and families.

 

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" I just watched another program of these "FACTS" but a week ago."

could you please advise the program and where to view as i am interested...it is always good to see the criminal at work and see the setting as discussed....

perhaps a morbid thing on my part......as i have watched numerous programs on ruby ridge, waco, Texas tower massacre, freeway shooters, and such....

this mgm event did remind me of the Texas clock tower........
 

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"..........a total of $800 million in payouts from casino company MGM Resorts International and its insurers to more than 4,400 relatives and victims of the Las Vegas Strip shooting......."

"MGM Resorts, the owner of the Mandalay Bay, acknowledged no liability. It will pay $49 million, while insurance companies will pay $751 million under the settlement."


"...........acknowledged no liability. It will pay $49 million.........."

Obviously because MGM just feels "generous", not responsible. The representative insurance companies also feel $751 Million worth of "generous", as well.

Call it anything you like, look at it any way you want. That's still "$800 Million of irresponsibility"! Ask the survivors and families.
That’s not generosity nor admission of liabilities. It’s a gamble on the likelihood of losing a bogus lawsuit because of a bleeding heart judge and how much litigation will cost and how long it will go on. That’s a business decision, not generosity.

It wasn’t that long ago a judge defied the legal protections of gun manufacturers and allowed Remington to be sued.
 
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