How would anyone know exactly where you live? I share what i have here, A lot of share what we bought as we buy. If you have decent security at home and insurance it helps ease the fear. My NRA membership covers the 1st 2500.00 in theft and my homeowners covers anything over that. Basically the NRA covers the deductible. What you share is up to you. None of us will twist your arm to list what you own. The members here are good decent folks.
Is it such a good idea to list the firearms you own in a forum that public can read?
As gun owners. I wonder if its such a good idea to list the fire arms etc that we possess in a online forum like this?
My concern is that we are creating a shopping list for thieves and other parties to attempt theft or confiscation. By letting the whole world know exactly what you have or might have.
Where especially when listing many firearms and accessories and loads of ammo would create and increase incentive of reward over consequences in the success of targeting us.
Personally I find it morally and ethically irresponsible to create a list online of the firearms I possess or others possess.
Its one thing if you mention a particular firearm here and there because your trying to resolve some issue with it in some form or other.
I also take into consideration that most gun safes can be easily defeated by going through the side or top or back of the safe with easily acquired portable power cutting tools and pry bars.
My concern is that we are creating a shopping list for thieves and other parties to attempt theft or confiscation. By letting the whole world know exactly what you have or might have.
Where especially when listing many firearms and accessories and loads of ammo would create and increase incentive of reward over consequences in the success of targeting us.
Personally I find it morally and ethically irresponsible to create a list online of the firearms I possess or others possess.
Its one thing if you mention a particular firearm here and there because your trying to resolve some issue with it in some form or other.
I also take into consideration that most gun safes can be easily defeated by going through the side or top or back of the safe with easily acquired portable power cutting tools and pry bars.
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IMO, NO , it is not - I see it all the time in someone's sig line and I do not get it. Not something I would ever do - that said, if someone ran all of my online screen names and all of my posts, they would have a decent idea of what I have; but that would mean looking on dozens of forums under even more names and going through 100K+ posts, IF you could even ID them
Yeah i use different S/N on the forums too. And FB i don't use my full name. Just Allen Jr, I do not use my last name there.
There is such a thing as too much information; my opinion of course.
It's too late to worry about that. It is now time to worry how you plan on stopping them.........As gun owners. I wonder if its such a good idea to list the fire arms etc that we possess in a online forum like this?
My concern is that we are creating a shopping list for thieves and other parties to attempt theft or confiscation. By letting the whole world know exactly what you have or might have.
Where especially when listing many firearms and accessories and loads of ammo would create and increase incentive of reward over consequences in the success of targeting us.
Personally I find it morally and ethically irresponsible to create a list online of the firearms I possess or others possess.
Its one thing if you mention a particular firearm here and there because your trying to resolve some issue with it in some form or other.
I also take into consideration that most gun safes can be easily defeated by going through the side or top or back of the safe with easily acquired portable power cutting tools and pry bars.
I am thinking in terms of responsible ownership and public safety as a gun/guns owner. I don't know what the statistics is regarding stolen guns versus how many used in crimes including murder vs owned guns used by owners for crime.
But I can imagine that its high . So By not listing all or a portion of your firearms especially on one page you reduce the risk of thieves stealing your guns with intent to use or sell them for criminal purposes.
What I would hope to happen by us being more responsible is reducing that 79% by not alerting thieves about who to hit and steal guns from.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...have-been-saying-for-a-long-time-about-crime/
Also if this site was hacked and the hacker got you email address they can sell that info to thieves who plug that into a people finder service and get a current address for where you live.(its easy to do)
There may be other ways to get your email address from here. Which I don't know about. Example if this site were sold to a data collection firm, your email and your social media profile(listing of which sites your a member of) would be added to the people finder services, Same way sodahead site was bought by a info broker and thus that data broker now is in possession of every ones personal info that was posted to the site. Users were blocked from removing that data because the data broker revoked every ones access. Including mine. And I tried everything to remove my data short of taking them to court. privacy in the Terms of service be damned.
PS this is why I refuse to fill profile info in due to what happen at sodahead
But I can imagine that its high . So By not listing all or a portion of your firearms especially on one page you reduce the risk of thieves stealing your guns with intent to use or sell them for criminal purposes.
What I would hope to happen by us being more responsible is reducing that 79% by not alerting thieves about who to hit and steal guns from.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...have-been-saying-for-a-long-time-about-crime/
Also if this site was hacked and the hacker got you email address they can sell that info to thieves who plug that into a people finder service and get a current address for where you live.(its easy to do)
There may be other ways to get your email address from here. Which I don't know about. Example if this site were sold to a data collection firm, your email and your social media profile(listing of which sites your a member of) would be added to the people finder services, Same way sodahead site was bought by a info broker and thus that data broker now is in possession of every ones personal info that was posted to the site. Users were blocked from removing that data because the data broker revoked every ones access. Including mine. And I tried everything to remove my data short of taking them to court. privacy in the Terms of service be damned.
PS this is why I refuse to fill profile info in due to what happen at sodahead
@ziggidy
I beg to differ about it being to late.
That was kind of the point bring up the listing of firearms owned. that maybe we need to change our behavior and be more careful about when or how we disclose what firearms we own. Especially online.
I am finding out the hard way that info you don't think is readily available to strangers is via people finders and data profile brokers.
example My father has a people finder profile that discloses he is in possession of property worth more than a million. it is listed in the free portion that anyone can see without paying. BUT my Father never uses the internet for anything. Yet you can find where he lives via people finder using some key pieces of info. And he knows nothing about it that anyone can track him down. He moved to the middle of nowhere specifically to get away from people.
The greater your online presence is the easier it is for bad people to find your address. Thus avoid listing firearms from this point forward especially in sig or on one page. Make it as hard as possible for the bad actors to figure out what you actually own.
I beg to differ about it being to late.
That was kind of the point bring up the listing of firearms owned. that maybe we need to change our behavior and be more careful about when or how we disclose what firearms we own. Especially online.
I am finding out the hard way that info you don't think is readily available to strangers is via people finders and data profile brokers.
example My father has a people finder profile that discloses he is in possession of property worth more than a million. it is listed in the free portion that anyone can see without paying. BUT my Father never uses the internet for anything. Yet you can find where he lives via people finder using some key pieces of info. And he knows nothing about it that anyone can track him down. He moved to the middle of nowhere specifically to get away from people.
The greater your online presence is the easier it is for bad people to find your address. Thus avoid listing firearms from this point forward especially in sig or on one page. Make it as hard as possible for the bad actors to figure out what you actually own.
It would be less trouble (and it has been done) to just ram a gun store with a truck to steal firearms that it would be to track someone, spot the time that he's not home go through all the problems to open the damn safe and risk all kinds of injuries including death if you're wrong for 5 10 or 15 guns you may not like. Which is why it's not half as bad as you think to tell your forum friends about your guns :lol:
My full name is James Thompson. I live at 38 winding River Tr, Morristown, NJ. MY PHONE NUMBER IS 973-454-8978. My SS # is 132-66-7655. My date of birth is 7/04/1968. My Mothers maiden name is McMann. But I’m not telling you anything about my guns!
I'm not hard to find. Nobody's come lookin yet. I have a list. It's not for public view. I disclose what I choose. I use my name because it's my name. I didn't choose it.
Alan
Alan
so........had we not be members of the nra or midwayusa as they might get hacked? Had we best not get a carry permit out of fear of a hack or publication by liberals under the freedom of information act?
are we to not jojn gun clubs or go to the range out of fear that someone will see us and follow us home to target the house later?
how about this..........probably 99 percent of members and visitors to gun forums are honest citizens.......and probably the vast, vast majority of the criminal element are not visitors of gun forums cruising for targets of opportunity and are not computer savvy to hack or trace.....
gun folks are a purty honest bunch.....despite what the liberals think. gun folks like to share stories and experiences and do like to share a pic or three........its the joy of ownership and pride in ownership and wanting to share the joy as gun owners are purty much drawn together and in their own unique club so to speak.
are we to not jojn gun clubs or go to the range out of fear that someone will see us and follow us home to target the house later?
how about this..........probably 99 percent of members and visitors to gun forums are honest citizens.......and probably the vast, vast majority of the criminal element are not visitors of gun forums cruising for targets of opportunity and are not computer savvy to hack or trace.....
gun folks are a purty honest bunch.....despite what the liberals think. gun folks like to share stories and experiences and do like to share a pic or three........its the joy of ownership and pride in ownership and wanting to share the joy as gun owners are purty much drawn together and in their own unique club so to speak.
Speak for your self. I’m just here cruising for chicks!
chicks dig guns.........just don't tell my wife. she thinks we are all just a bunch of grumpy old men spitting and scratching...and sadly not chick material.....Speak for your self. I’m just here cruising for chicks!
^^^ For some reasons when they realize we're just a bunch of old farts they just vanish and never come back :lol:
Edit: You beat me to it lol
Edit: You beat me to it lol
Outside of the occasional "yeah, I have one of those" or "My --------- did that too" or "I really like my ----------" I would never list what or the amount of what I may or may not have.
Dont believe that info belongs out there in the ether.
Dont believe that info belongs out there in the ether.
My life. My property, My choice.
^^^ Agreed and it's written in my signature :lol:
With the exception of stamps this is pretty much a anonymous forum. Many of us may have a town listed but as far as the rest good luck unless you're some type of hacker that can track me. i wish anyone good luck trying to rob my house. Retired people living in the Apt that's attached, retired people living just in front of me and the neighbor next to me seems to be always home when I'm not. There is always someone around to stop them or at least call the police. if i happen to be home you're in for a bigger surprise. It's kind of hard to talk about shooting, how guns perform, fixing them, modifying them or anything else without disclosing some of what you have. I have posted pics of many guns i own and will continue to do so without fear of some guy in OK wanting to rob me.........BTW i called stamps number and it comes up as sex hotline!!!!:lol::lol::lol:
I may subscribe to a couple of tin foil hat theories, but I do not live in fear. People already know more about me than I do, so what? Watch out because of the car you drive, the credit card you use, the stores you may go to, the smart phone apps you have running, your doctor visits......I refuse to live in fear.@ziggidy
I beg to differ about it being to late.
That was kind of the point bring up the listing of firearms owned. that maybe we need to change our behavior and be more careful about when or how we disclose what firearms we own. Especially online.
I am finding out the hard way that info you don't think is readily available to strangers is via people finders and data profile brokers.
example My father has a people finder profile that discloses he is in possession of property worth more than a million. it is listed in the free portion that anyone can see without paying. BUT my Father never uses the internet for anything. Yet you can find where he lives via people finder using some key pieces of info. And he knows nothing about it that anyone can track him down. He moved to the middle of nowhere specifically to get away from people.
The greater your online presence is the easier it is for bad people to find your address. Thus avoid listing firearms from this point forward especially in sig or on one page. Make it as hard as possible for the bad actors to figure out what you actually own.
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