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In Texas it is a FELONY to carry a gun even with a CCW at:

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1. a dog or horse track
2. in a bar
3. a public school
4. a polling place on election day
5. in a courtroom or courthouse without permission

Does California have any of the above such laws that felonize gun carry in certain locations as above?

Going to the joint for packing at a dog track, come now!

What's the reasoning there?


Your Texas correctional facility tax dollars well served.


It is places like polling places, bars, schools (of course) and horse tracks that would attract random gunmen and crazy armed people the most
like a magnet in Lone Star.

I want all Texans here to call up their state elected officials including their governor on this one.
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Texas had a history of being very democrat and anti handgun for many years..............

the State was democrat controlled with a democrat governor from 1874 until 1994 when Gov George Bush took office. Texas for the most part started slowly turning republican in the 80's.

concealed carry was passed with a lot of.....for lack of a better term......fear and drama..... Therefore there were all sorts of restrictions applied. It was a beginning with much hysteria about the possibility of increased murder rates and "blood in the streets" and road rage. To those ends, amendments were made and the law was further hedged out of this fear or paranoia. Said restrictions typically followed two routes........
one i like to call the feel good road.....as in the typical general cry for public safety in meeting places like church, parks, schools, dens of inequity, etc.......this was a bone thrown to remaining democrats for appeasement.
the other route is private property rights of a land owner or business and their ability to control their business and property. This often creates huge debate about property rights vs carry rights. They have sided with the property owner of public and private establishments.

The carry law is under constant amendment each legislative cycle which is a brief period every two years.......Texas generally distrusts politics and will not allow the legislature to meet more often except for declared emergencies.

Texas has recently allowed open carry. A push for Constitutional carry was defeated and my understanding the defeat was because of over-zealous lobbying that ticked off a bunch of representives.

Here is a list of current pro gun amendments to the carry law.
https://www.nraila.org/articles/201...signs-ten-pro-second-amendment-bills-into-law

i honestly expect that in about 20 years, Texas will swing back to democrats and we will see an influx in anti-carry legislation.
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Those places I avoid anyway.

I don't gamble or go to racetracks.
I vote absentee.
I don't drink.
Wherever I go to a courthouse, I always expect guards with metal detectors at the door.
I don't fear a "mass shooting" at court.

I would most likely carry a concealed handgun for hikes on trails or camping.
I probably wouldn't carry in state capitol or police station even if it were legal.

It seems like packing on a public university or college campus is legal in TX.
It is felonized to pack on K-12 school grounds for most in TX. Faculty might be able
to be armed a schools under special provisions.

I try to avoid no-gun zones as much as possible.

I'm glad churchgoers can go to service in TX now packing heat unless the church
says no or posts the premises with signs.
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1. a dog or horse track
2. in a bar
3. a public school
4. a polling place on election day
5. in a courtroom or courthouse without permission
6. Post office

What's the reasoning there?

Your Texas correctional facility tax dollars well served.

It is places like polling places, bars, schools (of course) and horse tracks that would attract random gunmen and crazy armed people the most
like a magnet in Lone Star.

I want all Texans here to call up their state elected officials including their governor on this one.
For the post office, the prohibition extends to the entire property including parking lot and sidewalk. I don't often have to go there, but I park across the street, put my gun up, and hoof it.

For the courthouses in Beaumont, there are no exceptions. LEO only.

Went to a restaurant South of here for a family get together and I called ahead and asked if they had a "51%" sign. They said, "No," so I carried in there. They have a bar, but make most of their money off food.

There's an Internet cafe where I do Open Mic Night and they have a 51% sign on the entrance. They make most of their money on booze and offer a limited menu (quite good).

Almost all of the area medical buildings, and hospitals, have 30.06 (conceal carry prohibition) and 30.07 (open carry prohibition) signage.

Most stores have no signage at all while a few have 30.07. No one open carries around here anyway.

The largest mall in the area (Beaumont population = 100,000) is a gun-free zone. I don't go there. We get reports of people with purses or packages leaving the mall being robbed.

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Those conditions have existed for a long time and I'm OK with them. I'm not going to call up my state elected officials, including my governor, on this one.
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Our post office does not enforce the gun free zone laws. They don't even have notices posted no firearms.
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Here in NC, we can conceal carry into bars, as long as we don't drink alcohol. The reasoning that got the law changed was, designated drivers who conceal carry don't want to wait in the car, plus conceal gun carriers should be allow to eat in a bar without forfeiting their right to carry.
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Our post office does not enforce the gun free zone laws. They don't even have notices posted no firearms.
39 CFR § 232.1 - Conduct on postal property.

Weapons and explosives.

Notwithstanding the provisions of any other law, rule or regulation, no person while on postal property may carry firearms, other dangerous or deadly weapons, or explosives, either openly or concealed, or store the same on postal property, except for official purposes.
For the post office, the prohibition extends to the entire property including parking lot and sidewalk. I don't often have to go there, but I park across the street, put my gun up, and hoof it.

For the courthouses in Beaumont, there are no exceptions. LEO only.

Went to a restaurant South of here for a family get together and I called ahead and asked if they had a "51%" sign. They said, "No," so I carried in there. They have a bar, but make most of their money off food.

There's an Internet cafe where I do Open Mic Night and they have a 51% sign on the entrance. They make most of their money on booze and offer a limited menu (quite good).

Almost all of the area medical buildings, and hospitals, have 30.06 (conceal carry prohibition) and 30.07 (open carry prohibition) signage.

Most stores have no signage at all while a few have 30.07. No one open carries around here anyway.

The largest mall in the area (Beaumont population = 100,000) is a gun-free zone. I don't go there. We get reports of people with purses or packages leaving the mall being robbed.

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Those conditions have existed for a long time and I'm OK with them. I'm not going to call up my state elected officials, including my governor, on this one.
If and when deadly armed attacks ever occur in these no-gun zones in TX and especially on a regular basis, your state elected officials, especially the GOP ones, might then start to get the message. Except for one church, I haven't heard much of Texas "mass shootings" on CNN. If I were in TX, or any other state, I try to avoid no-gun zones at all cost. Bad and crazy people with guns hellbent on wasting a bunch of folks and dying themselves by police don't give damn about the prohibitions at pony tracks, ballgames or otherwise. I get nervous as a VA patient going to doctor appointments because those federal facilities are clearly posted no-gun for the average joe in any state. There was that historical clock tower massacre in Austin back in the 1960's.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Texas_tower_shooting
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America has far too many laws to be called a "free country".
The reasoning is irrelevant unless you're in court to challenge the constitutionality of it. If that's your concern, there is no point in worrying about it unless you're going to act to change that law by writing to your congress critters about it.

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If and when deadly armed attacks ever occur in these no-gun zones in TX and especially on a regular basis, your state elected officials, especially the GOP ones, might then start to get the message. Except for one church, I haven't heard much of Texas "mass shootings" on CNN. If I were in TX, or any other state, I try to avoid no-gun zones at all cost. Bad and crazy people with guns hellbent on wasting a bunch of folks and dying themselves by police don't give damn about the prohibitions at pony tracks, ballgames or otherwise. I get nervous as a VA patient going to doctor appointments because those federal facilities are clearly posted no-gun for the average joe in any state. There was that historical clock tower massacre in Austin back in the 1960's.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Texas_tower_shooting
I feel comfortable in saying that any and all prohibited places in Texas have been the site of a shooting.

Stuff happens. We haven't closed the beer joints down.

I'm uncomfortable about gun-free zones as well, but I want them to be gun-free.

The exception is the big mall. Not by way of sour grape, but by way of accuracy, the mall prices are too high and competitors are ubiquitous.

The group of people in Texas with conceal permits is not large enough to affect change, anyway.

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