We have a sign on every door entrance to our church that states, (paraphrase mine) Guns Allowed. If you can legally carry a gun, you are able to carry here.
Every door has that posted.
Every door has that posted.
Ignorance is bliss?
SALT LAKE CITY (AP) — Most members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints already knew they were discouraged from taking their guns to church on Sunday, but the church is making sure that message is crystal clear by tweaking the policy to prohibit all lethal weapons.
> The change went into effect the first week of August and a letter explaining it was first sent to local leaders in Texas and shared with members there, said church spokesman Daniel Woodruff.
The impetus was a new Texas law that takes effect soon that makes it clearer in state law that licensed handgun holders can carry weapons in churches, synagogues and other houses of worship.
> The same letter will be sent elsewhere to local leaders, who will be responsible for sharing it with their congregations, Woodruff said.
"Churches are dedicated for the worship of God and as havens from the cares and concerns of the world," the revised policy says.
"With the exception of current law enforcement officers, the carrying of lethal weapons on church property, concealed or otherwise, is prohibited."
> The move is likely driven by rising awareness of gun violence in the U.S. Bowman said it also seems to fit with the church's attempt to adapt to being a more global religion, representative of cultures other than the American West that is steeped in hunting and guns.
"It is illustrative of the church's slow evolution away from being a largely Western rural church which it has been for a long, long time toward a more cosmopolitan, international organization," Bowman said.
Today, more than half of the religion's 16 million members live outside the United States.
> "In any organization, you have people who might desire to protect or take the law into their own hands, and I think the church in this policy is saying,
'Please don't. Church is a place of peace,'" Gordon said.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/m...nst-guns-in-church/ar-AAGmplR?ocid=spartanntp
Lambs to slaughter also comes to mind.
The impetus was a new Texas law that takes effect soon that makes it clearer in state law that licensed handgun holders can carry weapons in churches, synagogues and other houses of worship.
> The same letter will be sent elsewhere to local leaders, who will be responsible for sharing it with their congregations, Woodruff said.
"Churches are dedicated for the worship of God and as havens from the cares and concerns of the world," the revised policy says.
"With the exception of current law enforcement officers, the carrying of lethal weapons on church property, concealed or otherwise, is prohibited."
> The move is likely driven by rising awareness of gun violence in the U.S. Bowman said it also seems to fit with the church's attempt to adapt to being a more global religion, representative of cultures other than the American West that is steeped in hunting and guns.
"It is illustrative of the church's slow evolution away from being a largely Western rural church which it has been for a long, long time toward a more cosmopolitan, international organization," Bowman said.
Today, more than half of the religion's 16 million members live outside the United States.
> "In any organization, you have people who might desire to protect or take the law into their own hands, and I think the church in this policy is saying,
'Please don't. Church is a place of peace,'" Gordon said.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/m...nst-guns-in-church/ar-AAGmplR?ocid=spartanntp
Lambs to slaughter also comes to mind.
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Ignorance isn’t bliss, it is simply ignorance... It is obvious, in my perception, that the goal of LDS here, as it is in other things, is presenting the attractive image to every community. The safety and welfare of worshippers is not nearly as important as their desired image in culture around them. They ignore the reality that the church might stand against evil instead of trying to blend in with it and seek desperately to be perceived as non-threatening to culture at any cost. They are trying to make their own safe places! I am guessing that LDS leadership never put much stock in reading and comprehending the Bible, and more specifically, Nehemiah.
Our church has no signage regarding firearms, but all who attend know who the licensed carriers are, and are thankful for their presence each time we gather. We refuse to succumb to political and societal pressures and choose to be wise as best we can rather than accept ignorance. We believe in protecting our families and standing as one against all forms of evil...
Our church has no signage regarding firearms, but all who attend know who the licensed carriers are, and are thankful for their presence each time we gather. We refuse to succumb to political and societal pressures and choose to be wise as best we can rather than accept ignorance. We believe in protecting our families and standing as one against all forms of evil...
Since the law in Texas has taken effect I have seen no change at my church in regards to signage.
I let the pastor and church committee know that if my gun was no longer welcome in church then neither was I .
I let the pastor and church committee know that if my gun was no longer welcome in church then neither was I .
Just because it doesn't happen often doesn't mean that it won't, I'm well placed to know in this effin liberal governed country, every time I go to the mall or a public place, restaurant and such I always sit where I can see the entrance, in malls my head is on a swivel. With all the effin migrants from god knows where I may be paranoid but i'll be a surviving paranoid. I don't want to be sitting on the floor bleeding and think I knew this was going to happen one day. Wish I could carry... and if I could, no idiot wishful thinker would make me drop my safety.
This is a true surprise to me. I was born and raised Mormon but booted it to the curb about 20 years ago. I always tell people that if I were to ever walk into a church again, I'd likely burst into flames. :wink:
Anyhoo, the most avid, vociferous gun nuts I know were the Mormons. They've always taught that the Mormon church would one day step in and save The Constitution as it hung by a thread. That kind of thing. They've also taught for as long as I've known that while murder is evil, defending oneself is perfectly all right.
I suppose that over the past 30 years or so they've been avidly changing their teachings like most of us change our socks every day. Very strange.
Perhaps they believe their undies will keep them safe. Indeed, I know many who believe exactly that.
Yeah, ask me anything about it...............
--Wag--
Anyhoo, the most avid, vociferous gun nuts I know were the Mormons. They've always taught that the Mormon church would one day step in and save The Constitution as it hung by a thread. That kind of thing. They've also taught for as long as I've known that while murder is evil, defending oneself is perfectly all right.
I suppose that over the past 30 years or so they've been avidly changing their teachings like most of us change our socks every day. Very strange.
Perhaps they believe their undies will keep them safe. Indeed, I know many who believe exactly that.
Yeah, ask me anything about it...............
--Wag--
Until it isn't'Please don't. Church is a place of peace,'" Gordon said
Where have you guys been? Just because the cardboard in a few dozen "Gun Free Zone" signs didn't protect anybody,
doesn't mean that all cardboard is worthless, for personal protection, where hapless masses gather...
doesn't mean that all cardboard is worthless, for personal protection, where hapless masses gather...
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