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I have(had) two computers running windows, my old Dell laptop and an old Gateway. The Dell just monitors my cameras, the Gateway was my primary until I got the Mac. A couple weeks ago, the Gateway got a windows upgrade, it failed, so it restarted and said it was restoring my computer to the previous state. Well....I had a dual boot, and the boot order was Linux then windows. It deleted my working Linux, and put windows first and a corrupted Linux second. A couple days later, it ran the upgrade again, this time it succeeded, and I no longer have a dual boot, it just goes into windows. All this time, my laptop didn't update once. I think the bastards were using my Gateway as a test machine. So that was bugging me. So I did a clean install, hoping it would fix my partition mess and then I could install Linux again. Linux is smart enough to share the drive with other operating systems, windows is not. So I tried to install a clean Linux next to windows, but it failed because of the partition mess. So, FU windows, I deleted all the partitions, made one, and installed the latest and greatest Linux Mint 19.2 (Tina). Tina has the whole house to herself. I was reluctant to get rid of windows on that computer because it was my primary for so long I thought there might be something on it I'd want in the future. But I'm pretty sure I have everything. Tina is FAST on that computer. I wish I could find some open source software for my cameras, then windows would be out of my life FOREVER. God, I hate Microshit.
 

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i understood a word here and there...........

i am purty much an idiot with computers............
 

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Sam,

FYI, once a week or so, open the terminal window in Mint and run the following commands ......

sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade -y
sudo apt-get dist-upgrade -y
sudo apt autoremove

..... this will help keep Mint up-to-date.


BTW, if it wasn't for my lovely wife, Windows would be kaput here too. I'm still trying to figure out why Weirdos has to reboot after every @^##% update?
 

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I love my Macs! No virus protection upgrades every few weeks and I’ve taken mine to some unsavory places without fear.
 

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I got a call from security at my ISP because they were contacted by an organization that said my IP was launching attacks on their servers. It was right after I got my Mac. I told him the Mac isn't the problem, he informed me that yes, Macs can gets infected with crap. So I run TotalAV on everything. I know what it was, and it wasn't on my Mac, it was something I installed on my Android. Last time I ran that program, it wanted permission to access my system or something, and it said "we won't use your personal information, just your IP address"! Just like that! It's gone. I trust my Linux more than my Mac, but I really do like my Mac!
 

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All the MS crap is rife with what anywhere else would call "viruses", which make it impossible to run anything but the newest windows and buy, buy,buy, more exclusive MS Windows "updates", which seem mysteriously like anti "virus" software, but any MS rep will tell you this is not the case.

Get the picture, yet?
 

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i understood a word here and there...........

i am purty much an idiot with computers............
I mentioned it before but here we go again...

I was a field tech with FedEx fixing computers at shippers locations and ran into a lot of folks, primarily warehouse workers, who said they didn't know [anything]much about computers. I got pretty good at analogies to explain computer operations. It would be probably verbose to explain the full analogy so I'll spare you but the short version would be:

He was renting a room at his house. (A business might be better but I mostly stuck to common things like houses or cars). His tenant used to cut the grass. He did a partial renovation to the house then his tenant left (or couldn't live there anymore). He renovated the room hoping his tenant or a new one would return but he didn't. He's hoping to get another tenant to cut his grass so he can move out and rent the entire place to a tenant that will cut the grass. He lived there so long he really hates to rent the whole place out. He thinks he has everything he wants so he can move out completely but until he can get a tenant to cut his grass he's stuck with the whole place to himself without a tenant.
 

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I have(had) two computers running windows, my old Dell laptop and an old Gateway. The Dell just monitors my cameras, the Gateway was my primary until I got the Mac. A couple weeks ago, the Gateway got a windows upgrade, it failed, so it restarted and said it was restoring my computer to the previous state. Well....I had a dual boot, and the boot order was Linux then windows. It deleted my working Linux, and put windows first and a corrupted Linux second. A couple days later, it ran the upgrade again, this time it succeeded, and I no longer have a dual boot, it just goes into windows. All this time, my laptop didn't update once. I think the bastards were using my Gateway as a test machine. So that was bugging me. So I did a clean install, hoping it would fix my partition mess and then I could install Linux again. Linux is smart enough to share the drive with other operating systems, windows is not. So I tried to install a clean Linux next to windows, but it failed because of the partition mess. So, FU windows, I deleted all the partitions, made one, and installed the latest and greatest Linux Mint 19.2 (Tina). Tina has the whole house to herself. I was reluctant to get rid of windows on that computer because it was my primary for so long I thought there might be something on it I'd want in the future. But I'm pretty sure I have everything. Tina is FAST on that computer. I wish I could find some open source software for my cameras, then windows would be out of my life FOREVER. God, I hate Microshit.
When I dual booted my PC in older versions of windows. I learned how to manually edit the boot file that pointed to the disk and partition that had the other operating system. That file or it's equivalent probably got overwritten during the upgrade. Windows itself has nothing to do with another operating system running. I would reload windows regularly on my PC's after a few years because it gets clogged and bogged down. You may want to do a complete clean load of windows and linux.

Your inability to find suitable camera software is one of the reasons I run windows. It's easy to find any software you need. The same reason I buy guns in popular calibers. The same reason virus's are prevalent for windows is because of it's popularity. I'm thinking about a dual boot setup or dedicated Linux machines to play with. I'm also a computer snob and like new electronic parts. Not quite quoting Moore's law but if your computers are more than 3 years old it's ancient like some of us on here so expect lot's of aches and pains until you get new parts.
 

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With my new Mac (2010), I can do everything I want, except those cheap cameras. Once in a while, and upgrade will trash them too, I could have run Grub and fixed it, but I'm done fighting windows.
 

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I have one for you sam. Back in the 90's i was big into computers and would build and sell them from one i got from the trash. This was back when i think they were around 233mhz and 64mb of ram was a lot. I would find places that were upgrading or moving and they would literally fill roll off boxes with computers, mostly ig office building that had banking headquarters and such. A buddy and i would take them to my house and double up the hard drives and stuff in as many ram chips as e could, delete the disk and install windows 95(i bought a full install disk) and then sell them for like $100 bucks. I'm not sure what operating system they ran but it wasnt windows. I had one when after the install it had this weird font that could not be changed and the screen had this strange light purple hue that couldn't be changed no matter what we did with the color options. Stayed the same with different monitors too. It ran fine and my brother got it and it worked for several years until it was just too slow. I ended up starting one of the computers one day before messing with it just for fun and it had the same font and weird purple hue. Somehow the old operating system(after being formatted) meshed with windows. There may have been some other changes that i don't remember or not obviously noticed. Always thought that was strange. I haven't kept up with much and forgot a lot about these fool machines so most of it is all greek to me now...
 

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^^^ Had the same luck with a school my sister worked at, they changed all of their computers and they were going to throw them away so I got them all.My basement was filled with them lol I had about 60 of them comp, 14 inch monitor, keyboard and mice. Sold around 50 of them after reloading windows and ended up with enough money to re do my living room floor and kept about a dozen 10 gig hard drive from the really screwed up ones, they were big then, good times :)
 
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