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Friend who provided Dayton shooter with 100-round magazine and body armor faces federal charges

When Kollie filled out the ATF paperwork to obtain the Draco pistol in May, the affidavit says, he checked the "no" box when asked whether he had been a regular user of marijuana or any other controlled substance.

Agents explained they were going to search Kollie, in accordance with a search warrant issued earlier that day, and Kollie produced a bag of marijuana and a .38 Special revolver, the affidavit says. He also told the agents that he grew psychedelic mushrooms at his home and explained the process to them, according to the affidavit.

"Kollie stated that he micro-doses the mushrooms on a constant basis, saying it provides him with energy and is 'fun,'" the affidavit says.
Asked why he lied on the federal firearms form, Kollie allegedly told agents that "if he told the truth about his drug use, he would not be allowed to purchase a firearm."
 

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when other peoples are responsible for selling stuff to others is when stuff of any kind will cease to be available
Btw I think responsibility lies with the owner of said stuff what you do with it once you bought it is no concern to the person who sold it to you (legal stuff of course)
Edit: in the case of a firearm if you cheat lie and circumvent the process to get it it's even less the seller's business, the seller was given a set of rules to follow he followed them end of the story
 
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when other peoples are responsible for selling stuff to others is when stuff of any kind will cease to be available
Btw I think responsibility lies with the owner of said stuff what you do with it once you bought it is no concern to the person who sold it to you (legal stuff of course)
Edit: in the case of a firearm if you cheat lie and circumvent the process to get it it's even less the seller's business, the seller was given a set of rules to follow he followed them end of the story
Yep. Dude got caught lying on a form.

Federal investigators emphasized that there was no evidence that Kollie knew how Betts would use the equipment or that Kollie intentionally took part in the planning.

The accusations came as prosecutors unsealed charges against Kollie that they said were unrelated to the Aug. 4 shooting in Dayton, Ohio.
 

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They are both responsible. you ever consider the stuff he sold to the shooter might have been items the shooter was not allwed to posses for some reason? Or items the shooter did not want on his own record as possesing?



Also we don't know if law enforcement was watching the shooter beforehand. So by selling it and by not going through normal channels like a firearms dealer there was no public record to be tracked, which might have tipped the law enforcement.



Why do you think they require us to get a purchase permmit from the police chief to buy a hand gun in the first place.



My guess the body armor was of a type that required special permit to buy and my guess the shooter would not have qualified in the first place. Also the shooter if he had gone through proper channels to aquire the body armor he would of been redflagged for further checks when he failed the innicial application. Which means he might been put on law enforcement radar if the above person had not cercumvented curent laws regarding purchase of such items .



I know dragon skin armor was a restricted purchase type armor . Before the army banned it due to defective design by army standards.
 

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you mention "friend" was this friend a "licensed firearms dealer"? Or a person with "special permits" to purchase certain classes of restricted gear?
Assumming the gear was restricted?

my previous comment was based on Friend being person with permits to purchase certain gear the general public is not allowed access too or as a strawhat buyer.
 

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Us as in who? I don't need any purchase permit to buy a handgun or rifle. I can buy on the spot. Takes about 5 mins from the time i say to my dealer i want this one till im out the door.
 

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you mention "friend" was this friend a "licensed firearms dealer"? Or a person with "special permits" to purchase certain classes of restricted gear?
Assumming the gear was restricted?

my previous comment was based on Friend being person with permits to purchase certain gear the general public is not allowed access too or as a strawhat buyer.

What is with all the gibberish in this post?
 

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Mini14 to be honest I been trying to figure this guys motive since he's joined here.
 

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Us as in who? I don't need any purchase permit to buy a handgun or rifle. I can buy on the spot. Takes about 5 mins from the time i say to my dealer i want this one till im out the door.
Thats because you live in the US. I live in the communist utopia of NJ.
 

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I been wondering the same thing mini14 anytime I use prentises for example i get that giberish. I don't know why. It does not show before pressing send.
 

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@coalcracker I am a straight and narrow constitutionalist firearm owner, who contimplates consiquences before taking actions especially if the consiquences could be harmful to life and liberty . Who is in the crosshairs of the alt-left as being the future mass murderer based solely On the basis of owning a firearm and having a NON- violent DSM diagnosis.



Just trying to knock some sense in to people in general and get them to stop continually knocking their bloody heads against a concrete wall that never going to crumble in order to solve a PEOPLE problem that leads to mass violence.



When it seems that everyone is too focused on an inanimate object that is incapable of committing violence. or people who have never demonstrated violence and have been responsible.
 

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Good points and we all know guns do not do those bad things and good folks do not, It's the nut job welding the weapon who does it. You need to start pounding this into the minds of the gun grabbing liberals. They are not here. Some may spy here. But you need to start contacting politicians on both sides if the fence. I speak with my local rep often about these issues, Also talked to one of our local PO'S about the pending redflag laws.
 

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I do believe you've spent too much time talking with 'shrinks'.

Here it is; plain, straight and simple.

I, and no one else, am responsible for my actions.

You, and no one else, are responsible for your actions.
 

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It is unsurprising that someone close to a situation like that would find themselves under a microscope. However, hopefully that person is found guilty only of crimes they've committed. If he is found guilty of something else, that would be a very dangerous precedent indeed.
 

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What is with all the gibberish in this post?
"test"

I'm guessing, but what device are you posting from?

" is HTML code for double quote.

Some smart phones and tablets do that. Don't know about Mac.

admin may walk you through changing Settings in your Control Panel.
 

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@ bignastycowby : laptop but I am also using noscript as first line of malware defense. Some of the ones for this site are listed in red so I don't allow them to be active scripts. along with trackers etc.
 
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