National Gun Forum banner

1 - 2 of 2 Posts

·
Co-Owner Handgunlaw.us
Joined
·
338 Posts
Discussion Starter #1
Updated 11/24/07 0600 GMT Amtrak Info Added

Handgunlaw.us is trying to put together a listing of Federal Places off limits to those who are carrying a firearm. This question has shown up many times in Emails to me. It gets ask so much that we are going to list it on Handgunlaw.us by itself and not just in the FAQ's. If you can assists us in any way with this list please add your comments to this posting or send them to [email protected][/email:f8bb3] We do realize that Post Office carry is still a very gray area along with other Federal entities. Again any help you can give us will be greatly appreciated. Please give links to any references you can give us if possible. The more info we have the better we can confirm all the infromation. We will post all the info we gather at [url=http://www.handgunlaw.us]Handgunlaw.us[/url] for all to view.
_________________________________
Places with Federal Restrictions on Firearms? Last Updated 11/24/07 (Any Assistance you can give us with Federal Restrictions would be greatly appreciated.)

1. Federal Courthouses*
2. Federal Buildings*
3. Any Building Owed, Leased or Rented by the Federal Government. This includes buildings in
National Forests that are property of the Federal Government. There is no Federal Law that
prohibits carry in National Forests. States control the carrying of firearms in National Forests
in their state.
4. Federal Prisons*
5. National Parks*
6. U.S. Army Corp of Engineers* The Corp builds and runs flood control and navigation Dams.
The Dam and grounds around the dam are Federal Property. Many State Parks are found around
the Lakes and rivers Corps Dams form. The boundary between Corp Property and State
Property is not clearly marked. There are also boundary lines in the lake between State and Federal
waters. It is up to you to know these boundaries.
7. National Cemeteries*
8. Military Bases (Carry not allowed but some have shooting clubs. You can take firearms onto
the Base to shoot. Check at each Military Post for specific rules on Shooting Clubs)
9. Rented Offices, Any part of any building that the Federal Government has rented for Office
space or work force etc. Just their offices or the part of the building they
have control over. You can carry in the rest of the building if state or local laws allow.
10. **Designated Federal Entity* – As listed below. These Agencies are a dark area in Federal
Law that I can not find any information about their Offices/Buildings/Parking Lots and if
they are covered under the same laws as Federal Buildings. I have found in their Rules and
Regulations that firearms are not permitted on their premises. So they all have their own
Regulations about carrying on their premises.
11. Amtrak* Amtrak has its own rules that state: Items not allowed in Carry On or Checked
Baggage,. Any type of gun, firearm, ammunition, explosives, or weapon. Large, sharp objects such
as axes, ice picks and swords. Corrosive or dangerous chemicals such as tear gas, mace,
12. Post Office?* Each states law is different. In some states, Post Office carry is restricted
by the state, in others it’s not. If it’s not restricted by the state, Title 18, United States
Code, Sec. 930 applies. (See Post Office at bottom of page.)

* This includes parking lots adjacent to or p

art of the facility if the Federal Agency/Entity owns or has control of the parking lot.
__________________________________________
** Federal Law on Federal Entities.
5 USC Appendix Sec. 8G 01/02/2006

Title 5 - Appendix
Inspector General Act Of 1978

Sec. 8G. Requirements for Federal entities and designated Federal
Entities
(a) Notwithstanding section 11 of this Act, as used in this section -
(1) the term "Federal entity" means any Government corporation (within the meaning of section 103(1) of title 5, United States Code), any Government controlled corporation (within the meaning of section 103(2) of such title), or any other entity in the Executive branch of the Government, or any independent regulatory agency, but does not include -
(A) an establishment (as defined under section 11(2) of this Act) or part of an establishment;
(B) a designated Federal entity (as defined under paragraph (2) of this subsection) or part of a designated Federal entity;
(C) the Executive Office of the President;
(D) the Central Intelligence Agency;
(E) the Government Accountability Office; or
(F) any entity in the judicial or legislative branches of the Government,
including the Administrative Office of the United States Courts and the
Architect of the Capitol and any activities under the direction of the Architect of the
Capitol;
(2) the term "designated Federal entity" means Amtrak, the Appalachian Regional Commission, the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System, the Board for International Broadcasting, the Commodity Futures Trading Commission, the Consumer Product Safety Commission, the Corporation for Public Broadcasting, the Denali Commission, the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission, the Farm Credit Administration, the Federal Communications
Commission, the Federal Election Commission, the Election Assistance Commission, the Federal Housing Finance Board, the Federal Labor Relations Authority, the Federal Maritime Commission, the Federal Trade Commission, the Legal Services Corporation, The National Archives and Records Administration, the National Credit Union Administration, the National Endowment for the Arts, the National Endowment for the Humanities, the National Labor Relations Board, the National Science Foundation, the Panama Canal Commission, the Peace Corps, the Pension Benefit Guaranty Corporation, the Securities and Exchange Commission, the Smithsonian Institution, the United States International Trade Commission, and the United States Postal Service;
_________________________________
Post Office Information
Title 18, United States Code,
Sec. 930 applies. See below.
Title 18, United States Code, Sec. 930. - Possession of firearms and dangerous weapons
in Federal facilities
a. Except as provided in subsection (d), whoever knowingly possesses or causes to be present a firearm or other dangerous weapon in a Federal facility (other than a Federal court facility), or attempts to do so, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than 1 year, or both.
d. Subsection (a) shall not apply to -
3. The lawful carrying of firearms or other dangerous weapons in a Federal facility incident to hunting or other lawful purposes.

(Administrative Note) 39-I-4-410 says that other Federal Laws do not apply to the Postal Service unless stated in the Federal Law that it covers the Postal Service.

Title 39 - Part I - Chapter 4
§ 410. Application of other laws
(a) Except as provided by subsection (b) of this section, and except as otherwise provided
in this title or insofar as such laws remain in force as rules or regulations of the Postal
Service, no Federal law dealing with public or Federal contracts, property, works,
officers, employees, budgets, or funds, including the provisions of chapters 5 and 7 of
title 5, shall apply to the exercise of the powers of the Postal Service.
(b) The following provisions shall apply to the Postal Service:
(1) section 552 (public information), section 552a (records about individuals),
section 552b (open meetings), section 3102 (employment of personal assistants
for blind, deaf, or otherwise handicapped employees), section 3110 (restrictions
on employment of relatives), section 3333 and chapters 72 (antidiscrimination;
right to petition Congress) and 73 (suitability, security, and conduct of
employees), section 5520 (withholding city income or employment taxes), and
ection 5532 (dual pay) of title 5, except that no regulation issued under such
chapters or section shall apply to the Postal Service unless expressly made
applicable;
(2) all provisions of title 18 dealing with the Postal Service, the mails, and officers
or employees of the Government of the United States;
 

·
Harley Dude
Joined
·
14,651 Posts
I know that protland has tried to carry that rule a bit further by stating that any venture that receives federal support or funding is off limits to gun carry. The max commuter train come to mind!
The state says no, individuals with carry permits can carry on public transportation, but the TRI-MET organization says no. I guess the rule has not been tested as yet and I will carry if I choose on the public transportation since a large part of the crime occurs on those methoids of travel.
 
1 - 2 of 2 Posts
Top