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https://www.foxnews.com/world/drone-attack-saudi-oil-facility-iran-rebels

The world's largest oil processing facility and a nearby oil field in Saudi Arabia were set ablaze early Saturday morning after reported drone attacks by Iranian-backed Yemeni rebels.

The Interior Ministry was quoted by state-run media as saying the fires at the Abqaiq oil processing facility in Buqyaq and the nearby Khurais oil field operated by Saudi Aramco were “targeted by drones.”

It wasn’t immediately clear if there were any injuries.

Houthi rebels – who are backed by Iran in a yearslong Saudi-led war against them in Yemen – have reportedly claimed responsibility for the attacks and vowed that further attacks could be expected in the future.

The military spokesman Yahia Sarie said in a short address aired by Houthi’s Al-Masirah satellite news channel that the group launched 10 drones in a coordinated attack on the sites.

“The only option for the Saudi government is to stop attacking us,” he added.

State television showed footage showing smoke from the blazes clearly rising behind a correspondent.

The smoke could be seen from space.

Saudi officials have not commented on who they think is behind the attacks. Saudi Aramco did not immediately respond to questions from the AP.

Meanwhile, The Wall Street Journal reported that the government is shutting down half of its oil output after the drone strikes, which amounts to a loss of about five million barrels a day - or roughly 5 percent of the world's daily production of crude oil. Sources said Saudi Aramco held an emergency board meeting on Saturday to manage the unfolding crisis.

The oil facility processes sour crude oil into sweet crude, then later transports onto transshipment points on the Persian Gulf and the Red Sea. Estimates suggest it can process up to 7 million barrels of crude oil a day.

Smoke fills the sky at the Abqaiq oil processing facility on Saturday, Sept. 14, 2019 in Saudi Arabia. Drones claimed by Yemen's Houthi rebels attacked the world's largest oil processing facility in Saudi Arabia and a major oilfield operated by Saudi Aramco early Saturday, sparking a huge fire at a processor crucial to global energy supplies. (Validated UGC via AP)

The Khurais oil field is believed to produce over 1 million barrels of crude oil a day. It has estimated reserves of over 20 billion barrels of oil, according to Aramco.

The plant has been targeted in the past by militants. Al Qaeda claimed suicide bombers tried but failed to attack the oil complex in February 2006.

The U.S. Embassy in Riyadh said it was unaware of any injuries to Americans. Saudi Aramco employs a number of U.S. citizens, some of whom live in guarded compounds in the kingdom near the site.

President Donald Trump called Saudi Arabia's Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman in the wake of the drone strikes and expressed the United States' readiness to cooperate with the kingdom in supporting its security and stability, according to a news release from the Saudi Embassy in Washington. Trump said recent attacks against Saudi state-run oil facilities have had a negative impact on the U.S. and global economies.

"These attacks against critical infrastructure endanger civilians, are unacceptable, and sooner or later will result in innocent lives being lost," U.S. Ambassador John Abizaid, a former Army general, said.

The Saudi-led coalition has been battling the rebels since March 2015. The Iranian-backed Houthis hold Yemen's capital, Sanaa, and other territory in the Arab world's poorest country.

The war has become the world's worst humanitarian crisis. The violence has pushed Yemen to the brink of famine and killed more than 90,000 people since 2015, according to the U.S.-based Armed Conflict Location & Event Data Project, or ACLED, which tracks the conflict.

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If it hasn't already, expect gasoline prices to jump 30-40¢ a gallon.

Expect Iran to be bombed back into the stone age, by a coalition of Saudi Arabia, England and the United States.
 

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Why do these tyrants and terrorists think that by passing people off it’s going to strengthen their position? I see no other course of action than to destroy their oil production and nuclear facilities. It will be hard on the innocent people but it sucks to be them. It’s just like when a cop kills someone. The dead guy brought it upon himself.
 

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Why do these tyrants and terrorists think that by passing people off it’s going to strengthen their position? I see no other course of action than to destroy their oil production and nuclear facilities. It will be hard on the innocent people but it sucks to be them. It’s just like when a cop kills someone. The dead guy brought it upon himself.
I don't see the connection and your first point is right but your second point cannot be substantiated as a generalization.
 

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Wow that sucks. I was enjoying gas prices dropping.
 

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wondering..............."drone" is a purty large and broad description............

what type of drone? size? unit cost? armed or carrying what?

the list of suppliers is probably short on the predator type large ones.....or is it?

or did they modify the amazon 50 dollar special.....and do something like that
 

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wondering..............."drone" is a purty large and broad description............

what type of drone? size? unit cost? armed or carrying what?

the list of suppliers is probably short on the predator type large ones.....or is it?

or did they modify the amazon 50 dollar special.....and do something like that


They captured one of ours a couple of years ago and the fear were they would reverse engineer it and build their own.
 

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Expect Iran to be bombed back into the stone age, by a coalition of Saudi Arabia, England and the United States.
I would prefer if Saudi would do the job, against Yemen where the terrorists came from, by themselves using those fancy aircraft they bought from us
 

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I see a war between Saudi Arabia and Iran in the near future.............................
 

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I don't see the connection and your first point is right but your second point cannot be substantiated as a generalization.
My point is that even criminals wouldn’t get killed if they didn’t do stupid things. How many times have you heard of a cop shooting a bad guy who just wouldn’t stop when caught?
 

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US is going to start war with Iran no later than next month.
 

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The House will never fund it. If Japan attacked Hawaii today, they'd own it.
Done correctly, the House will never have a chance to oppose it. The War Powers Act requires the President to notify Congress within 48 hours of committing armed forces to military action and forbids armed forces from remaining for more than 90 days, without Congressional approval. Our military (turned loose) could wipe Iran off the map, in a few weeks.
 

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The weekend attack on the Saudi oil refinery may well be looked back at as a true hinge moment in history, for it represents the first time a world power, Iran, through its agents in Yemen, struck another world power with large numbers of drones in a coordinated fashion. Sure, drones have been used for the last twenty years or so to deploy weapons of war, but those deployments have usually been by singular drones against singular, specific targets.

I think it highly likely that Hezb’allah, from Lebanon, and Hamas, from Gaza, will strike Israel with multiple or even swarms of low-flying drones in coordinated ways. Iran could increase its attack on Gulf shipping. India and Pakistan could fight their own “Battle of Coral Sea” over Kashmir with neither side ever seeing or firing on the other. And the implications in the China-Taiwan and North vs, South Korea conflicts are staggering to contemplate.
 
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