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Update:

Odessa Police Chief Michael Gerke said the suspect of the Midland-Odessa shootings was a white male in his mid-30s.

The incident began at 3:17 p.m. CDT, when a Department of Public Safety officer attempted to make a traffic stop on a gold Honda, Gerke said. When the vehicle came to a stop, the occupant shot the officer.

The vehicle drove westbound into Odessa, where another person was shot. The suspect continued through Odessa to 42nd Street, where Gerke said "there were multiple victims."

The suspect abandoned his vehicle and stole a mail truck, Gerke said. There were other victims after that, he added.

The suspect then drove eastbound toward the Cinergy movie theater, where he and officers exchanged fire. The suspect was fatally shot in the exchange, Gerke said.
 

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getting awful close to home..........
 

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The hate from the left. Democrats just spew hate, and then say Trump did it. They are sick, and it's spreading.
 

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I want to know what kind of weapon(s) and motive. It'll be a few days before they get all that information together.

In the meantime, I'm wishing everyone peaceful healing like I've been doing for many years and expect to do so very soon.
 

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Sounds like it started out as a traffic stop with the shooter first shooting and wounding the state trooper making the stop, then randomly shooting several people in Midland and Odessa until police shot and killed the shooter.
 

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A white male in his 30s who was known to police killed four people and wounded 21 others on Saturday in a gun rampage between the West Texas cities of Midland and Odessa that started with a traffic stop and ended when he was killed by officers, authorities said.

The suspect hijacked a postal van and opened fire on police officers, motorists and shoppers on a busy Labor Day holiday weekend before being shot dead outside a multiplex cinema complex in Odessa, police said.

Authorities originally thought there were two shooters driving two vehicles, but Odessa Police Chief Michael Gerke told a news conference on Saturday evening that he believed there was only one.

The gunman was heading from Midland to Odessa on Interstate 20 when he was stopped at 3:17 p.m. local time, Gerke said. He shot the police officer, took off west on I-20 and then exited at Odessa. There he drove to a Home Depot and opened fire on passersby.

"At some point the suspect stole a mail truck and ditched his car," Gerke said. He drove the mail truck back east, pursued by police, before crashing into a stationary vehicle behind the Odessa Cinergy multiplex complex, where he engaged in a gun battle with police and was shot dead, Gerke said.

Midland Mayor Jerry Morales said the suspect used a rifle to shoot the Texas Department of Public Safety officer who had stopped his vehicle, but did not know any more details about the weapon.

The Texas Department of Public Safety said that as two state troopers made the initial traffic stop on I-20, the suspect pointed a rifle toward the rear window of his car and fired several shots toward their patrol vehicle, hitting of them.

The wounded trooper is in serious but stable condition, and two other wounded police officers are in stable condition at a local hospital, the department said in a statement.




From here: https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/us-apnewsalert/2019/08/31/id/930736/
 

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Sounds like it started out as a traffic stop with the shooter first shooting and wounding the state trooper making the stop, then randomly shooting several people in Midland and Odessa until police shot and killed the shooter.
Yep, and I'm wondering about the probable cause for the traffic stop. Police are not releasing that information.

They may have had a tip and a BOLO.
 

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Yeah I'm curious on the why's as well. Seems like they haven't released much except that he used a AR15. The media was probably all giddy about that.
 
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That ex-cop Fox news has on all the time, the black guy, was going on and on about "semi-automatic", they are changing the narrative to include ALL semi-automatics.
 

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sort of nice that the info is being slow in coming.......the press hounds are having to wait and they don't like that....which please me.

i would guess they will do a detailed press release on their own time table......and not what the press wants.
 

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Yeah I'm curious on the why's as well. Seems like they haven't released much except that he used a AR15. The media was probably all giddy about that.
I watched the press conference out of Odessa just a few moments ago. The exact wording was, "It was an AR type weapon." No mention of "15."

Hard on the governor is that today is the first day of new more lenient firearm laws in Texas. Awkward.

Also, in response to, "Are y'all working on addressing AR type weapons," the gov responded with, "Well, you know, handguns are the most common weapon used in mass shootings."

He gave an example. The convo post-presser centered around the idea that handguns are very effective in close quarters, as was the case the gov cited, but rifles are more effective at distance like El Paso and this latest one.

The gov said he and everyone else was already working on solutions when this latest shooting happened. He suggests changes are coming, but didn't reveal what that would look like or when. I live in Texas and history shows that we really don't give a damn. That's not an indictment. It's an observation.

The FBI guy said, "We're here to help, just like we were two weeks ago and two weeks before that and so on, throughout the nation, and we'll be available for the next one two weeks from now."
 

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From one of my posts:
I live in Texas and history shows that we really don't give a damn. That's not an indictment. It's an observation.
This guy puts it best:
“Do something!” is the statement we keep hearing. As an elected official with a vote in Austin, let me tell you what I am NOT going to do.

I am NOT going to use the evil acts of a handful of people to diminish the God-given rights of my fellow Texans. Period. None of these so-called gun-control solutions will work to stop a person with evil intent.

I say NO to “red flag” pre-crime laws. NO to universal background checks. NO to bans on AR-15s, or high capacity magazines. NO to mandatory gun buybacks. What can we do?

YES to praying for victims. YES to praying for protection. YES to praying that God would transform the hearts of people with evil intent. YES to fathers not leaving their wives and children. YES to discipline in the homes. YES to supporting our public schools. YES to giving every law-abiding single mom the right to carry a handgun to protect her and her kids without permission from the state, and the same for all other law-abiding Texans of age.

YES to your God-given, constitutionally protected rights. YES to God, and NO to more government intrusions.

Godless, depraved hearts. That IS the root of the problem. Every person needs a heart transformed by faith in God through Jesus. May God be near to those suffering in Odessa and Midland, and everywhere that evil has struck a blow.
~ Texas Republican state representative Matt Schaefer 8/31/2019
 

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One more time...

The solution does not lie inn controlling firearms. It lies in controlling the criminals who perpetrate these acts. A permissive, entitled, narcissistic mindset is what has created this problem.


Alan
 
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