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sig232 said:
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leeindy said:
let them fight there battle over there. not here.
Does anyone seriously believe that invading Iraq has made it more difficult for al-Qaeda to strike the US? I'd love to hear why.

And Afghanistan? All we did was drive them into Pakistan, which we won't invade because it is ostensibly a "friendly" nation. I am not sure why it would be harder to plot attacks from Pakistan instead of Afghanistan. But there they sit in the mountains of Pakistan, coming down occasionally to kill American and NATO troops and generally make life miserable for everyday Afghans. Whack-a-mole, anyone?

Denying terrorists a safe haven is a fine idea in theory, but if we really want to follow through on that, we will have to invade every nation in the Middle East (except Israel) and most of Africa. We're spread rather thinly on two fronts already, never mind opening up a dozen or two more.
I do see your point and agree with much of what you say. But..........I do think the resources of the Islamic Radicals is limited and they choose to direct those resources into the war effort in Iraq and Afganistan, currently. If and when we pull out they will redirect their attention and resources back to the free world.

I grieve for the loss of one of our troops but if we kill them in the ratio of 100 to 1 or 1,000 to one are we ahead or are they winning? If they choose to strike terror into Iraq and Afgan and kill their own people, will not their own people soon wake up and realize they are killing their own and turn on the radicals? If we leave will they then be able to come to American and kill us in the reverse of that ratio, since they will be bombing our shopping centers, trains, buses, trucks, planes, and markets? What do you think?

It is Islam that has chosen not to cooexist with christians and other religions. Other religions have accepted them with open arms, into Europe and America. Israel knows that the only way to deal with Muslims is through strength and to meet an attack with two attacks, thats all radical muslims understand and respect. If you show weakness you and your famlies will be killed in your favorite church. They have no boundries when it comes to violence. They are merchants of fear and thats the only thing that they understand, FEAR! They will never work out a deal, negoiate a settlement, or truce.

Like a Grizzley bear that has tasted blood and is circling your cabin, you will have to kill him to stop the attack! He will not go away and will never give up!
I agree "sig".
 
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Gunzzi said:
Fight them there, or fight them here.... Not much of a choice IMO.
When were Iraqi's busting down anyones door here? And who are you refering to when you say "fight them" who are they?
 

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Dobey said:
Gunzzi said:
Fight them there, or fight them here.... Not much of a choice IMO.
When were Iraqi's busting down anyones door here? And who are you refering to when you say "fight them" who are they?

Easy there, Dobey..... We're all cool here!!!! :cool:
 
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I edited it, I was kind of pissed last night in general sorry, I was not trying to troll. Anyways topics like this are always good discussion but you can't change peoples minds even if they don't understand the full spectrum of reality, I was mostly disturbed by the "we have to fight them there so we don't fight them here" comment, I just cant contemplate how people come to that conclusion.
 

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No problem! I edited mine to reflect your change..... I understand your point of view, and the war is a very delicate subject. We just need to try and respect everyone's take on it......

Welcome to the forum anyway! :) We're a fun bunch of people!
 

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Dobey said:
Gunzzi said:
Fight them there, or fight them here.... Not much of a choice IMO.
When were Iraqi's busting down anyones door here? And who are you refering to when you say "fight them" who are they?
With all due respect, are you aware that there are Islamic extremists who want to kill you? Were you born on or after Sept. 11, 2001? Ever hear of a guy named "Al Sadr"? He wants you and me dead and will stop at nothing to accomplish that goal including killing himself in the process.

This is a prime example of how "cushy" you have it here in America.
 

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Dobey said:
...you can't change peoples minds even if they don't understand the full spectrum of reality...
I couldn't agree more.... :roll:
 
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