California is the home of recycling.

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underdog

Discussion Starter · Aug 10, 2019

Minimum Wage Increase Takes Out California's Biggest Recycling Biz

August 7, 2019
Daniel Greenfield

California's largest operator of recycling redemption centers shut down Monday and laid off 750 employees.

So much for all those "Green Jobs" that the 2020 Democrats keep promising. RePlanet closed all 284 of its centers, and company president David Lawrence said the decision was driven by increased business costs and falling prices of recycled aluminum and PET plastic, the San Jose Mercury News reported.
The move came three years after RePlanet closed 191 of its recycling centers and laid off 278 workers.

> We've got a rent seeking industry that just isn't being subsidized enough at consumer expense. And somehow all these green businesses with their green jobs keep failing no matter how much they are subsidized.

> “With the continued reduction in state fees, the depressed pricing of recycled aluminum and PET plastic, and the rise in operating costs resulting from minimum wage increases and required health and workers compensation insurance, the Company has concluded that operation of these recycling centers and supporting operations is no longer sustainable,” a company spokesman said in a statement Monday.

“We warned just months ago that the bottle deposit program was in crisis and today’s closure shows consumers are being left in the lurch by the failure of the state to keep recycling centers open,” said consumer advocate Liza Tucker in a statement. “Governor Newsom needs to tackle this problem personally and make reform of the broken bottle deposit system a top priority this fall. CalRecycle has failed to deal with the problems we have raised and they have now become a full blown crisis for consumers and recycling in California.”

> There's no crisis for consumers here. There's a crisis for lefty policymaking.
https://www.frontpagemag.com/point/...rease-takes-out-californias-daniel-greenfield
A better read - https://legalinsurrection.com/2019/...e-rules-kill-states-largest-recycling-center/
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Russ D

· #2 · Aug 10, 2019

Soo, you're suddenly shocked that democrats are saying and doing whatever's convenient, at any given time ?

What next ? Will you be expecting them to say what they mean, and mean what they say?

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Stevejet

· #3 · Aug 10, 2019 (Edited)

From Wikipedia:

California Redemption Value (CRV), also known as California Refund Value, is a regulatory fee[SUP][1][/SUP] paid on recyclable beverage containers in California. The fee was established by the California Beverage Container Recycling and Litter Reduction Act of 1986 (AB 2020, Margolin), and since 2010 the program has been administered by the Cal/EPA California Department of Resources Recycling and Recovery (CalRecycle) (it was previously administered by the California Department of Conservation, Division of Recycling).[SUP][2]

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[SUP]In August 2019, California's largest recycling redemption and processing centers operator, RePlanet, announced closing all 284 of its remaining centers, ceasing operations, terminating 750 employees, and beginning the process of liquidating assets to pay creditors, because of continued reduction in State fees, the depressed pricing of recycled aluminum and PET plastic, and the rise in operating costs.[10][/SUP]

In February 2016, RePlanet had closed 191 recycling centers and terminated nearly 300 employees in smaller communities across California, due to the same causes.[SUP][11]

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Stevejet

· #4 · Aug 10, 2019 (Edited)

Now, the question becomes, for we the consumers, when does the CRV "fee" (California Redemption/Recyle Value) become null and removed from products at the point of purchase?

Meanwhile, up at the Sacramento end,,,,,,,,,,,,,

"So, how does Sacramento plan to solve this fun, new problem so its politicians can continue to virtue-signal about recycling plastics as they jet to the latest climate change summit? Through legislation of course!

A trio of bills is course their way through the state legislature.

Two of the bills, authored by Democrats Lorena Gonzalez in the Assembly and Ben Allen in the Senate, are identical and would require manufacturers to reduce waste from packaging and certain plastic products. The other, by Assemblyman Phil Ting, calls on manufacturers to increase the minimum recycled content in plastic beverage bottles over the next decade.

All of the bills have cleared their houses of origin and their authors say they are cautiously optimistic they will pass in the Democratic-controlled Assembly and Senate. They still face pushback, however, on their way to the governor’s desk, notably from a new and secretive coalition called Californians for Recycling and the Environment that is encouraging the public to tell legislators to vote no on Sen. Allen’s bill, SB 54.

The new rules will probably inspire business owners to make choices that do not involve either plastics or California."

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Fitasc Shooter

· #5 · Aug 10, 2019

“We warned just months ago that the bottle deposit program was in crisis and today’s closure shows consumers are being left in the lurch by the failure of the state to keep recycling centers open,” said consumer advocate Liza Tucker in a statement.

Up to the state to keep failed business models working?

calls on manufacturers to increase the minimum recycled content in plastic beverage bottles over the next decade.

So can we finally get rid of the Tylenol-Scare era multi-redundant packaging? Used to be a bottle of aspirin had a cotton ball in the top. Now, you have the cotton, a factory-sealed opening, child-proof cap and then heat shrinked sealed

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Square target

· #6 · Aug 10, 2019

Aluminum is down because of so much recycling now which is a good thing because it cost several times more to make it from the raw. Plastic is down because fuel prices are down. Manufacturers can get virgin plastic for around the same price so why use recycled? You can thank liberals for the wage problem.....

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Popeye

· #7 · Aug 10, 2019

The California legislature will raise the CRV 'tax' and spend the money somewhere.

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Popeye

· #8 · Aug 10, 2019

square target2 said:
Aluminum is down because of so much recycling now which is a good thing because it cost several times more to make it from the raw. Plastic is down because fuel prices are down. Manufacturers can get virgin plastic for around the same price so why use recycled? You can thank liberals for the wage problem.....

AND China has dramatically increased the quality of 'recyclables' they will accept.

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Fitasc Shooter

· #9 · Aug 10, 2019

square target2 said:
Aluminum is down because of so much recycling now which is a good thing because it cost several times more to make it from the raw. Plastic is down because fuel prices are down. Manufacturers can get virgin plastic for around the same price so why use recycled? You can thank liberals for the wage problem.....

Plastic is down because China stopped taking our recycled plastic - they took 80%+ of what we recycled

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