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SEPTEMBER 11, 2019


Earlier this week, the California Legislature cast final votes on AB 12, AB 61, AB 879, AB 1254, AB 1297, and AB 1669, which will now move to Governor Newsom's desk for his consideration.

Assembly Bill 12, sponsored by Assembly Member Jacqui Irwin (D-44), would extend the duration of California’s “gun violence restraining order” law from one year to a period of up to five years. Meaning a person could be prohibited from owning and possessing firearms for five years at a time without ever being adjudicated as dangerously mentally ill or convicted of a crime. Red Flag Law change.

Assembly Bill 61,sponsored by Assembly Member Philip Ting (D-19), would expand the list of those eligible to file “gun violence restraining orders” beyond the currently authorized petitioners, which include immediate family and law enforcement. The new list is expanded to employers, coworkers and employees of a secondary or postsecondary school that the person has attended in the last 6 months. GVRO’s can remove a person’s Second Amendment rights, not based on criminal convictions or mental health adjudications, but based on third party allegations, often without dueprocess until weeks after a person’s rights have been suspended.​ Red Flag Law change.

Assembly Bill 879, sponsored by Assembly Member Mike Gipson (D-64), would require precursor firearms parts to be sold/transferred through a licensed precursor parts dealer in a similar process to the new laws regarding ammunition purchases. It would further create a registry of these parts and a new crime for transfer of precursor parts without the involvement of a licensed precursor parts dealer to anyone under 21 years of age or prohibited from owning firearms. Precursor parts include items such as unfinished frames and receivers.

Assembly Bill 1254, sponsored by Sydney Kamlager-Dove (D-54) would prohibit the ability to hunt, trap or otherwise take a bobcat except in specified circumstances including depredation permits.

Assembly Bill 1297, sponsored by Assembly Member Kevin McCarty (D-7), would remove the maximum fee a local authority can charge on the concealed carry permit application.

Assembly Bill 1669, sponsored by Assembly Member Rob Bonta (D-18), would raise the fees paid by consumers when purchasing firearms. The DROS account has generated a massive surplus at times, so much so that tens of millions of dollars that have been utilized to fund other DOJ programs, including a $24 million dollar loan to the Armed Prohibited Persons System (APPS) just a few years ago. This legislation appears nothing more than an effort to put more cost constraints on gun owners to foot the bill for the massive cost pressures the legislature has put on DOJ in recent years including ammunition background checks and long gun registration.


Awaiting vote on the Assembly floor.

Senate Bill 61, sponsored by Senator Anthony Portantino (D-25), as amended would expand California’s existing one handgun a month law to also apply to handguns or centerfire semi-automatic rifles, with limited exceptions. Further the bill expands the prohibition on acquisition of firearms by a person under 21 years of age by eliminating the existing exception for 18-20 year-olds with a valid hunting license.

Senate Bill 172, sponsored by Senator Anthony Portantino (D-25), would expand California's existing storage laws and includes harsh penalties,such as a 10 year ban on firearm ownership.




https://www.nraila.org/articles/20190911/california-anti-gun-bills-sent-to-governor
 

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I agree, even if you have family you can always go for short visits. NV, AZ, ID are not that far away
 

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Lake Wobegone, MN. Where all the men are handsome, all the women strong. And all the children are "Above Average".

Kalifornia IS what DEMOCRATS want the United States of America to BE. Thank a public school system.
 

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It's too bad that all the newly signed California gun laws can't be immediately presented to the SCOTUS, to then be ruled unconstitutional and struck down.
 

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I have no words.
Yes I do but it might get me banned.
If this crap passes, you have to be out of your mind to live there.
If we can't stop it here, it will soon be in your state.
 

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I agree, even if you have family you can always go for short visits. NV, AZ, ID are not that far away
NOT if they adopt a play out of anti sex laws. They could make it a crime that if your a resident of a state that forbids this this and this. If you go to another state that it is permissible you will be charged with a crime when you return home for violating the law of the state you lived in.

Since we already have laws on the books like that on the anti sex law side. it won't be long they apply it to fire arm related laws as well. since the anti sex laws are far more constitutionally violating. but is rarely challenged due to "but think of our children" mentality crowd.
 

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NOT if they adopt a play out of anti sex laws. They could make it a crime that if your a resident of a state that forbids this this and this. If you go to another state that it is permissible you will be charged with a crime when you return home for violating the law of the state you lived in.

Since we already have laws on the books like that on the anti sex law side. it won't be long they apply it to fire arm related laws as well. since the anti sex laws are far more constitutionally violating. but is rarely challenged due to "but think of our children" mentality crowd.
He is talking about MOVING to one of those states and VISITING relatives in CA.
 

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In many of the "Paradise of the Proletariat" that are Communist - Socialist countries like Cuba, Venezuela, North Korea, China, etc, they have groups of people in every residential block which jobs is to keep an eye on their neighbors and report anything they consider anti government. In other words, these countries have established a government sponsored snitch system.
These "red flag laws" are a first step into establishing this snitch system in the USA. Another step into a "Socialist Utopia".
 
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