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Beto O'Rourke visited an Arkansas gun show

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O'Rourke, who was in between campaign events in Arkansas on Saturday, paid $10 to enter the event,
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striking up a conversation with Preston Linck, who was selling handguns and rifles.
Linck, who later said he doesn't identify with either political party, supports closing the so-called gun-show loophole and requiring background checks for all gun sales.
"I have tables here, but there's no background check," Linck told O'Rourke, a former Texas congressman.

https://www.yahoo.com/gma/2020-hopeful-beto-orourke-visited-arkansas-gun-show-225000026.html



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Federal law requires firearm dealers, regardless of location, to initiate a background check before selling or otherwise transferring a firearm to a person who is not a dealer.

If Mr. Preston Linck has a FFL01, he is a liar.

If Mr. Preston Linck does not have a FFL01, and the article is accurate, he is a felon.
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So beto said this guy said that? He's a liar. beto couldn't say the truth, he would look bad.
Federal law requires firearm dealers, regardless of location, to initiate a background check before selling or otherwise transferring a firearm to a person who is not a dealer.

If Mr. Preston Linck has a FFL01, he is a liar.

If Mr. Preston Linck does not have a FFL01, and the article is accurate, he is a felon.
What did Joseph Goebbels say?.... "If you repeat a lie often enough it becomes the truth"
Federal law requires firearm dealers, regardless of location, to initiate a background check before selling or otherwise transferring a firearm to a person who is not a dealer.

If Mr. Preston Linck has a FFL01, he is a liar.

If Mr. Preston Linck does not have a FFL01, and the article is accurate, he is a felon.
Why is he a felon? It is perfectly legal for someone to sell their personal collection, even at gun shows, without a background check. In fact, I'm thinking of doing that to unload some of my guns.
Why is he a felon? It is perfectly legal for someone to sell their personal collection, even at gun shows, without a background check. In fact, I'm thinking of doing that to unload some of my guns.
The Gun Show Loophole Issue

The “gun show loophole” refers to the fact that most states do not require background checks for firearms sold or traded at gun shows by private individuals.
Federal law requires background checks on guns sold by federally licensed (FFL) dealers only.


The federal Gun Control Act of 1968 defined “private sellers” as anyone who sold fewer than four firearms during any 12-month period.
However, the 1986 Firearm Owners Protection Act deleted that restriction and loosely defined private sellers as individuals who do not rely on gun sales as the principal way of obtaining their livelihood.


Proponents of unregulated gun show sales say that there is no gun show loophole — gun owners are simply selling or trading guns at the shows as they would at their residences.

Federal legislation has attempted to put an end to the so-called loophole by requiring that all gun show transactions take place through FFL dealers.
Most recently, a 2009 bill attracted several co-sponsors in both the U.S. House of Representatives and the U.S. Senate, but Congress ultimately failed to take up consideration of the legislation.

In 32 states, there are currently no laws — federal or state — regulating firearms sales between private individuals at gun shows. However, even in states where background checks of private sales are not required by law, organizations hosting the gun show may require them as a matter of policy. In addition, private sellers are free to have a third-party federally-licensed gun dealer run background checks even though they may not be required by law.

https://www.thoughtco.com/gun-show-laws-by-state-721345


I am not informed enough to know if you can get a table at a gun show as a private seller.

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So we have that going for us.

I am not informed enough to know if you can get a table at a gun show as a private seller.

I just looked at the dealer application for the company that runs the gun shows in my area.

It doesn't specify that they are required but there is a space on the application for your FFL number and your PA tax id number.
I am going to assume that without them your application goes in the trash.

PRINTABLE DEALER APPLICATION

I have seen individuals walking around the show with either a sign or even a note taped to a firearm they are carrying that says its for sale. This is rare as I also suspect that they dont get far before someone from the show staff smacks them on their hand.
What did Joseph Goebbels say?.... "If you repeat a lie often enough it becomes the truth"
Actually that quote comes from Machiavelli in "The Prince"
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The Gun Show Loophole Issue

The “gun show loophole” refers to the fact that most states do not require background checks for firearms sold or traded at gun shows by private individuals.
Federal law requires background checks on guns sold by federally licensed (FFL) dealers only.


The federal Gun Control Act of 1968 defined “private sellers” as anyone who sold fewer than four firearms during any 12-month period.
However, the 1986 Firearm Owners Protection Act deleted that restriction and loosely defined private sellers as individuals who do not rely on gun sales as the principal way of obtaining their livelihood.


Proponents of unregulated gun show sales say that there is no gun show loophole — gun owners are simply selling or trading guns at the shows as they would at their residences.

Federal legislation has attempted to put an end to the so-called loophole by requiring that all gun show transactions take place through FFL dealers.
Most recently, a 2009 bill attracted several co-sponsors in both the U.S. House of Representatives and the U.S. Senate, but Congress ultimately failed to take up consideration of the legislation.

In 32 states, there are currently no laws — federal or state — regulating firearms sales between private individuals at gun shows. However, even in states where background checks of private sales are not required by law, organizations hosting the gun show may require them as a matter of policy. In addition, private sellers are free to have a third-party federally-licensed gun dealer run background checks even though they may not be required by law.

https://www.thoughtco.com/gun-show-laws-by-state-721345


I am not informed enough to know if you can get a table at a gun show as a private seller.

I really wish we gun owner would STOP using the anti vernacular of "loopholes".
THERE IS NO LOOPHOLE. It us perfectly LEGAL from the fed's view, for someone to sell their personal guns to another person from the same state - whether at a gunshow, flea market, yard sale, or through an advertisement.
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I just looked at the dealer application for the company that runs the gun shows in my area.

It doesn't specify that they are required but there is a space on the application for your FFL number and your PA tax id number.
I am going to assume that without them your application goes in the trash.

PRINTABLE DEALER APPLICATION

I have seen individuals walking around the show with either a sign or even a note taped to a firearm they are carrying that says its for sale. This is rare as I also suspect that they dont get far before someone from the show staff smacks them on their hand.
Happened all the time while I lived in NV and still does at every Florida gun show. Have watched some good deals and trades happen that way. And, it is NOT illegal.
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And, it is NOT illegal.

but it may be soon.
Why is he a felon? It is perfectly legal for someone to sell their personal collection, even at gun shows, without a background check. In fact, I'm thinking of doing that to unload some of my guns.
"I have tables here, but there's no background check," Linck told O'Rourke, a former Texas congressman.

'Tables', plural, rarely denotes someone selling firearms from their collection.

O'Rourke asked him whether Linck would accept a requirement that gun-show sellers like him get a federal firearms license, and Linck responded he would.

It stands to reason that someone selling a few firearms from their collection, or selling off an entire collection, would balk at the prospect of acquiring a FFL01.

So, I say again.

Federal law requires firearm dealers, regardless of location, to initiate a background check before selling or otherwise transferring a firearm to a person who is not a dealer.

If Mr. Preston Linck has a FFL01, he is a liar.

If Mr. Preston Linck does not have a FFL01, and the article is accurate, he is a felon.
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"I have tables here, but there's no background check," Linck told O'Rourke, a former Texas congressman.

'Tables', plural, rarely denotes someone selling firearms from their collection.

O'Rourke asked him whether Linck would accept a requirement that gun-show sellers like him get a federal firearms license, and Linck responded he would.

It stands to reason that someone selling a few firearms from their collection, or selling off an entire collection, would balk at the prospect of acquiring a FFL01.

So, I say again.
Tables plural means NOTHING at all. How many guns do you have? If you were selling most of them, would you need more than 1 or 2 6' tables to display things properly? I know I would and my number of guns is very small - you've been brainwashed living in CA too long it seems. LOTS of folks sell guns from personal collections that have a lot of guns.
The need for a FFL is IF one is "IN THE BUSINESS" and that entails buying and reselling for profit with the intent to make a living of it.
27 CFR 478.134.
B. North Carolina Requirements
Under
State
law, it is unlawful for any person, firm, or corporation to sell, give away, transfer,
purchase, o
r receive, at any place in the S
tate, any pistol, unless the purchaser or receiver has first
obtained a permit to receive such a pis
tol by the sheriff of the county where the purchaser or
receiver resides, or the purchaser or r
eceiver possesses a valid N
.C . issued concealed handgun
permit.
This requirement to obtain a permit prior to the transfer of a pistol applies to transactions
between private individuals or companies
throughout the State. N.C. Gen. Stat. §
14-
402(a).

A pistol purchase permit must also be obtained by the receiver of a handgun when such person
inherits a pistol.
In such a case, the permit should be given to the e
xecutor or receiver of the
estate of the deceased person. The permit should be retained by the seller or donor of the
handgun.

If the purchaser or receiver uses a North Carolina
concealed handgun permit for the
transfer, the seller should reference such permit on a bill of sale.
Further, it is unlawful for any person to receive from any postmaster, postal clerk, employee in
the parcel post department, rural mail carrier, express agent or employee, or railroad agent or
employee, within the State, any pist
ol without having in his/
her possession, such a pistol purchase
permit or N
.C . concealed handgun permit.
A violation of this pistol permit law is a Class 2 misdemeanor under N
.C . law.
These pistol purchase permit requirements
do not apply to
the transfer of antique firearms or
historic
-edged weapons.
An “antique firearm” is one that was manufactured on or before 1898
and includes any firearm with a matchlock, flintlock, percussion cap, or similar ignition system.
It also includes a replica t
hereof if the replica is not designed or redesigned for using rimfire or
conventional centerfire fixed ammunition. It also includes any muzzle loading rifle, muzzle
loading shotgun, or muzzle loading pistol, which is designed to use black powder substitute
, and
which cannot use fixed ammunition. N.C. Gen. Stat. § 14-
409(a).
However,
the term “antique firearm” does
not
include any weapon which incorporates a firearm
frame or receiver; is converted into a muzzle loading weapon; or is a muzzle loading weapon
that
can be readily conv
erted
to fire fixed ammunition by replacing the barrel, bolt, breechlock, or any
combination thereof. N.C. Gen. Stat
. §
14-
409.12.
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Happened all the time while I lived in NV and still does at every Florida gun show. Have watched some good deals and trades happen that way. And, it is NOT illegal.
Happens in other states too. Usually those people show up at opening time for the gun show, and those guns they are selling if reasonably priced get snapped up by vendors at the show and often change hands three or four times during the course of the show never leaving the grounds of the gun show and usually doubling in price with each sale.
The best deals happen before the show even opens - all the vendors go around to each others' tables and do some trades and deals.
The whole thing was staged so Beto could get some airtime.
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He may have visited the gun shown to see what a gun looks like....................................
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