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Here in California, a 10 round magazine is the maximum you can have. I have been looking at a few pistols the come with 15 round mags. How is this handled? I would assume the FFL would open the box, remove the 15s and put in two 10 rounders. Do they replace them with 3 10 rounders as this wouldn't fit in the packaging? What does the FFL do with these large cap mags? Is this handled by the distributor since they know it is heading to California?
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They should be shipped with whatever is legal in CA
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You might be seeing pistols that are only legal for sale to Law Enforcement in California. A whole lot of handguns are not available to us regular folk in CA.
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That makes sense but if only two mags they are ripping me off for another 10 rounds!
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You might be seeing pistols that are only legal for sale to Law Enforcement in California. A whole lot of handguns are not available to us regular folk in CA.
This is from a Cabelas in San Jose. Could be a nation wide posting though.
I'd bet that the same model isn't in stock in the San Jose store with the 15 round mags. You can also do a search with Cabela's to find out what is in stock at your local store.
Yeah but I was just curious about the misleading ads.I figured something is wrong but as I said, it is probably an ad for all Cabelas..That's fine as I suspect it will come with 2 ten rounders. Are the 10s the same length as the 15s but with a plug in the bottom?
Yeah but I was just curious about the misleading ads.I figured something is wrong but as I said, it is probably an ad for all Cabelas..That's fine as I suspect it will come with 2 ten rounders. Are the 10s the same length as the 15s but with a plug in the bottom?
Not a plug. They are permanently modified. A crimp, a cut, etc.
So are they shorter and and harder to inset and remove? Like disappearing into the pistol grip?
No. They are full length.
Here in NY we run into several problems. Unless some gun manufacturers have changed some guns just aren't made with 10 round mags and you can't get those models. Some guns are serialized like a VIN on a car so with the serial number you can tell if they were shipped from the factory with 10 round mags or something bigger. Supposedly they can't be sold with smaller mags if they came with mags greater than 10 rounds. Never heard of anyone having a problem in that situation though. Between looking at online sales of guns, guns that are already here being sold as law enforcement only or ones that sit at a distributor with greater than 10 round mags it's always up to the buyer to pay extra for the 10 round mags and the distributor, dealer etc just keep the other mags. Best bet is to just buy a model that comes with 10 round mags as an option which many do now.
Interesting that so few Californians seem to realize we no longer have a 10 round capacity limit. The ban on hi-cap mags was struck down by Judge Benitez in the same ruling in which he struck down California's "possession" law, AND California's ban on purchasing hi-cap mags (AKA: standard capacity).

This is why back in April we all had a week-long BUYING SPREE where we bought countless larger capacity mags until Benitez issued a PARTIAL stay to his injunction against California's entire magazine scheme. The ONLY thing he stayed was the restriction on purchasing hi-cap mags, nothing else. All magazines bought during the one-week window were and are completely legal as are ALL hi-cap mags possessed by everyone in the State. The fact that the law remains on the books notwithstanding, the ban on possession of hi-cap mags is currently reversed pending appeal by the full 9th Circuit. Since taking office, Donald Trump has already appointed something like nine or more new judges to the 9th Circuit, and already we are seeing the court swing from full-on liberal-activist to one guided by the Constitution. It's unlikely the "new" 9th will reverse Benitez, since this is the SECOND time he has ruled against California on the magazine issue. The remaining liberals on the court also know Brett Kavanaugh awaits should they rule against their own and it go up to SCOTUS.

Magazines are not serial numbered and there is no requirement to show proof of purchase.

So for now, new guns will only come with 10 round mags since that comes under purchasing. But "we" can have all the 15, 17, 22, and 33 round mags we want. The exception being all those "registered" assault rifles which are still limited to 10 rounds based on the latest features definition of the law.
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