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Do you have any AK's? I have a few.... A couple of Yugo's a Romanian and one cheap Norinco
So, what's you got and do you like it?
 
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Hmmm, as I look closer at these pictures, it is apparent that Gunny and I not only have similar taste in firearms, but it seems we like the same kind of carpet as well LOL..... :-B-:
 

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I have only one AKM-47.

In December of 2003, I bought myself a Christmas present: a Romanian SAR-1 for $200. I knew nothing about AKM rifles but had wanted one for awhile and saw the SAR-1 for sale in a mom-and-pop gun store.

The SAR-1 was used by the Romanian military and is the only true military issue of all the AKM rifles imported into this country. All SAR-1s have true AKM receivers with the dimple over the mag well. They were set up from the factory to use standard AK mags. All other AK variants imported into the U.S. are commercial rifles made for the consumer market. On entry into the U.S., Century swapped out the fire control group, the pistol grip, and the gas piston to keep the rifle within the letter of the sporting purpose clause of the 1968 Gun Control Act.

Although this picture is not my original SAR-1, mine looked basically the same as the one below.



After keeping the rifle in the original configuration that you see above for about a year, I decided that I wanted to customize my rifle based on some of the other AKM rifles that I had seen and/or read about on various AK sites and many of the members of the sites were kind enough to give me advice on how to proceed. So, I started the modification process and this is what I have ended up with so far:





The folding stock and furniture came from http://www.dpharms.com, the bayonet came from http://www.tickbitesupply.com, and see below for info on the Kobra red dot sight.





This picture immediately above shows the bayonet mounted over the slant brake. Because I had to thread the barrel to add the slant brake, it changed the 922r requirements for the rifle and I had to use a U.S. made slant brake in order to remain in compliance. Before installing the slant brake, I also installed a detent pin and spring in order to keep the brake in place.

And if you have not seen how the Kobra red dot sight attaches to the side rail of an AK, here it is:



The Kobra is the Russian military EKP-1S-03M upgrade and operates on two AA batteries. (http://tantal.kalashnikov.guns.ru/collimator.html). The Kobra can be easily mounted and dismounted without disturbing the zero of the sight once it is set.

It addition, the rifle is fully compliant with U.S. parts and thus meets the federally mandated 992r requirements.

The rifle also has modifications that are less noticeable, such as a:

Blackjack notched safety/selector lever, http://www.blackjackbuffers.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=66&products_id=202. Because some ranges that I go to require that the bolt of the rifle be locked open during cease fires, I installed the Blackjack notched lever. The locking open is done manually so when the last round from a mag is fired, you still hear the "click." If the bolt has to be locked open, then you can use the lever to do so.

Blackjack recoil buffer, http://www.blackjackbuffers.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=180

Blackjack shepherd’s crook replacement lever, http://www.blackjackbuffers.com/ind...uct_reviews_info&products_id=238&reviews_id=9

FCG from Red Star Arms, http://www.redstararms.com/

A Fuller enhanced rear sight from One Source Tactical http://www.onesourcetactical.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=564

I carry six mags – either 20 or 30 round mags – five in a Chinese military bag from Cheaper Than Dirt. The sixth mag will be in the rifle.
http://forums.cheaperthandirt.com/viewtopic.php?t=794

One of my better acquisitions is the Lula Loader. http://www.maglula.com
If you go to the site, just click on “Lula” in the upper left corner and then scroll down until you see the loader for the AK. If you don’t have one, you should.
Your thumbs will thank you!

In MHO, the AKM is the Glock of rifles. It’s not pretty but it is rugged, reliable, runs with little or no maintenance, and like the Glock it can be dry-fired ‘til your heart’s content without damaging the firing pin or any other part of the weapon. The AKM is not as accurate as the AR but for the purpose for which the AK was designed and manufactured, it is an excellent weapon.

If you own an AK or if you are thinking about owning an AK, the “must visit” site on the web is Romanian Kalashnikov Rifles, http://www.gunsnet.net/Linx310/index.shtml.

The magic of the site is in its left column and although the site is primarily for Romanian made AKM rifles, the principles that are discussed will apply to any manufacturer of AKM rifles.
 

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Some things just go together, like:
Ice cream and apple pie.
Monday night and football.
AKs and Glocks.

This past Saturday, I went to the gun show in Dallas at Market Hall.
While there, I visited the table of T.R. Graham to have some work done on one of my weapons.
T.R., if you don’t know, is one of the premier Glock armorers.

However, on Saturday I found out that T.R. also builds high quality AKM rifles. He had a Polish AKM with him that he had just recently completed and it was a beautiful, well balanced rifle (its owner was to pick it up later that day). Both the fit and finish were excellent. The metal was a deep, rich black and was complimented by black synthetic furniture and a side folding stock. Accessories included the sling, cleaning kit, etc.

If I ever have an AKM built, T.R., based on what I have seen of his work will be the one to do the building.

If you have any questions about your AK or your Glock, T.R. can be contacted at [email protected] or by phone at 713-944-3581.

BTW, other than being a satisfied customer for many years, I have no business or personal affiliations with T.R.
 
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Facts:
:In "43" the "klash" was born out of the need to stop the invading Nazis the Soviets held a competition to design a new auto rifle,Mikhail Kalashnikov a Sov tank Commander won the booty with his design the AK(automatic kalashnicov).
:The AK was first used in the conflict against the Hungarian revolt in "56"....(blood fest)
China supplied the NVA in Vietnam with these things....The Americans with there(misfiring through poor cleaning kits) M-16s often grabbed these things(bad idea if you,ve fired one they make a pop pop sound) sounds like the enemy....U figure it out.
:70 Million AKs are in circa as we speak...
September "72" The Dead Palestinian Pr*ck the Munich news showed the next day had a ........
:Check out Mozambiques flag........
:To Cut A long story Short....
:In 2004 Vladimir Putin sent G.W bush a bottle of vodka made of crystal shaped like a....
A.K! thanks for putting up with that rant team. ;)
 

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I used to have a pre-ban PolyTech underfolder, but I had no use for the rifle and a very large need for the money. I sold it to a guy in Florida.
 

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I want to get a few AK's, but i'm confused about which ones to buy? WASR this and SAR that?? I had a co worker that had a Russian Sagia, (spelling), and he couldn't find magazines for it, and when he could, they cost a ton. Some take double stack mags, others don't. They need to offer a college course on these things!! :lol: Bill T.
 

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Hi billt,
Below is a plan that will help you get started in choosing the right AK.

1. Go to http://www.gunsnet.net/Linx310/index.shtml and read the information and tutorials on the left side of the page. While the site is primarily for Romanian AK style rifles, the principles discussed apply to all makes and models of the AK rifle. :geek:

2. Next, go to http://www.gunchat.net/chat/viewtopic.php?t=3086 and read about how to select an AK for fit and finish. The rifles used in the examples are Bulgarian but again, the principles discussed apply to all makes and models of the AK rifle. :ugeek:

3. Using what you have now learned, go buy the best AK that your budget will permit. Remember that functionally, an AK is an AK and that any additional money that you spend will be for fit and finish. Don't get caught up in milled vs. stamped receivers - they both do what they are designed to do.

4. Now for the hands-on part of the education process. Go to http://www.suarezinternational.com/tech.html and scroll down the page to Oct. 25-26 and you will find a basic AK class that will be held in Prescott, AZ on those two days. If you really want a complete education, you may also want to enroll in the Oct. 24 class as well, also held in Prescott.

Once you complete the three steps above :-B-: you will be ready to :--- .

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dglockster,

Will do, and thanks much for the tips! Bill T.
 

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OK, I take it when people are discussing "SAR-1's", they are speaking of Romanian type AK rifles. These reportedly are the easiest to obtain and offer good value for price. How common is "sight cant" on these guns? Can Romanian rifles be purchased with both laminated wood furniture as well as black? I know some are finished crudely, and that I expect, but are they "new in box" type weapons, or do they "look used", if you know what I mean? I also read that it really doesn't matter which supplier you get a Romanian AK-47 from because every one of them is imported by Century Arms. From there, out they go to varoius distributors. Correct or not? I hope you don't mind me bothering you with all these questions, but I want to get several of these guns simply because I don't think we will have the opportunity much longer, especially if that b!tch Hillary gets in next year. Thanks much for your time, Bill T.
 

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OK, I take it when people are discussing "SAR-1's", they are speaking of Romanian type AK rifles.
That's correct, all SAR-1 rifles are Romanian, as are the SAR-2 and the SAR-3 rifles. http://www.gunsnet.net/Linx310/index.shtml explains the different models.

These reportedly are the easiest to obtain and offer good value for price.
All of the SAR models (1, 2, and 3) are difficult to find but they do offer a good value for price. You may find SARs at gun shows, sometimes on http://www.gunbroker.com, from private sellers, and maybe pawn shops. You will not find them from online gun vendors.

The most common Romanian AK model is now the WASR and that is what you will get when you buy a NIB Romanian AK.

How common is "sight cant" on these guns?
Sight cant is very common unless the original owner has corrected it or has had it corrected. In addition, it is not uncommon for the gas block to also be canted. http://www.gunsnet.net/Linx310/index.shtml tells how to identify and correct both problems.

Can Romanian rifles be purchased with both laminated wood furniture as well as black?
If you buy a NIB Romanian, it will have wood furniture.
You may find some used Romanian AKs with black plastic furniture.


I know some are finished crudely, and that I expect, but are they "new in box" type weapons, or do they "look used", if you know what I mean?
All NIB Romanian AKs will be the WASR models. They won't look used but they may not have the fit and finish that some of the higher priced AK rifles will have. It's always best to look at an AK regardless of the manufacturer before buying.

I also read that it really doesn't matter which supplier you get a Romanian AK-47 from because every one of them is imported by Century Arms. From there, out they go to varoius distributors. Correct or not?
Correct.

One other point, the Romanian WASR may not be the most attractive of the AK rifles, but as far as function goes, the newer models do as well as the other AK variants. When you look at a WASR, the last four digits of the serial number will be the year of manufacture and it is located on the left side of the receiver. As a rule of thumb, the more current the year the better the quality.
 

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dglockster,

Thanks much for taking the time to answer my questions. I think the picture that git r done posted of his WASR is a nice looking gun. Now I've got a little more to go on. Thanks again. Bill T.
 
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