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I preface my remarks by saying I am not a handloader. Because I am not versed in this area I raise the following: I own and shoot a Ruger New Model in 45 Long Colt. I have used only factory ammunition and find shooting it very pleasant and I can hit what I'm aiming at (most of the time anyway).

Recently a hand loading acquaintance said that he could load the 45 Long Colt to be "nearly as powerful" as a 44 magnum. It was his opinion that the result was "better" than the 44.

Any truth to his statements? Can this be done? Is there any truth to what he says? I'm not about to do this (even if it might be true) but I must admit to some real curiosity.

What about it?
 
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There is only a common usage of "Long" in "Long Colt"

The correct term is .45 Colt.

The .454 Casull is a hotrodded and modified .45 Colt.

Factory loads of .45 Colt are sweet to shoot, easy on one's wrist and hand.

As far as making a .45 Colt more powerful than a .44 Remington Magnum...sure you can...but why??

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not only yes but heck yes , when handloaded the 45colt will do everything the 44mag can do

with modern cases in modern guns like your Ruger blackhawk the 45colt can be loaded with heavier bullets than a 44mag or they can be load with about the same weight bullet and be pushed even faster and with less pressure

here are some link's with info on the 45colt

http://gunblast.com/Ruger_Bisley45.htm
The great thing about the .45 Colt in modern cases as compared to the .44 Magnum is that the .45 Colt can be loaded to more power with less pressure than the .44 magnum. That is not a misprint. The .45 Colt properly loaded is more powerful than the .44 magnum.

http://www.sixguns.com/tests/tt45lc.htm

if you want to stick with factory ammo , take a look at some heavy Corbon loads
 
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I am almost hesitant in getting anything in .45 Lc because it is almost a dead round anymore, not a whole lot of people make it. All the people I know that shoot .45 LC reload their own rounds.
 
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The 45 "LC" has turned into the cowboy thing. Most ammo is lead cause that's what they like. I agree that the ole 45 is about dead.
 

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Yes, you can load the 45 LC that hot, the problem is that there are still many older guns floating around that cant handle the pressure of a hot load.
 

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A friend of mine took an elk with a .45 LC last year. It took 2 shots but he dropped after a 100 YDS. The shots were taken at about 30 and 45 YDS. He was using 250 GN soft pts. Handloaded hot.

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I have shot some modern SA revolvers chambered in .45LC and they were loaded hot and I can honestly say they performed better than normal .44 magnum loads. Of course these were modern revolvers. Not something you want to do with old school steel unless you want to lose a few fingers.
 

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We have a lot of hog hunters here in our area. A lot of them do their own reloading. Seems they think it takes a dynamite charge to kill a hog. I was in a shop here awhile back and they 4 /.45 Colts on display that were blown up. Over charges everyone of them :shock: . Made me think why do I want to load a .45 to compare to a .44. I don't think I will. :)



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the best thing about my S&W 460 XVR magnum is i can shoot 45 colt, 454 casull and 460 magnum. the .45 colt is really nice to shoot i can shoot it one handed; not the other calibers those, lol
 

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A 44 mag will hold its resale better and is legal for deer in most states.
 

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I don't believe the 45 LC is about dead. It may not be as popular as the 44 but it isn't going away.
It can be loaded hot in the right guns. The Corbon loads are some real bruisers. I took a deer with the 260 grain bonded hollowpoint and it was impressive.
If I had to pick between them I would take a 44 for availability.
There used to be a short 45 too and that is why this round has the "long" in its name. It is still proper but not necessarily needed to address it that way.
Its a great and versatile round. It can do almost anything as long as you use common sense.
 

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surely you lose some durability if you load up a gun like that.
 

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In most cases the 45 LC is built on the same frame as the 44 mag. The gun is the same just chambered differently so if the gun can shoot 44s OK then a hot 45 isn't going to accelerate wear anymore.
 

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Check out CorBon ammo - they make three .45 Colt "Magnum" loadings (265gr JHP., 300 gr. hard cast and 305 hard) - all of which equal or excede .44 Mag. loadings with respect to muzzle velocities and energies- all are intended for hunting and are to be used in certain firearms only - i.e. those that are also chambered in .44 Mag. I got a box of the 265 gr. loadings to use in my Taurus Model 450 Titanium snub nose - and let me tell you, they are a double handful and then some with such a light weight piece and the muzzle flash was, well, startling to say the least. Good close-in bear or predator round - but don't count on follow-up nor being able to hear for a couple hours, if not wearing hearing protection.
 

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Yep that's the load I used to take the deer with my Redhawk. Its got plenty of ooomf!
 

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there was the .45 Colt and the .45 Schofield. the Colt was longer. The use of 'long' and 'short' came into use by those who did not know the proper names. The .45 Colt revolver became more popular since it could use either cartridge and the Schofield could use only the 'short' cartridge. It became a matter of logistics.
 
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