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Guns Save Life, Inc
https://courts.illinois.gov/Opinions/AppellateCourt/2019/4thDistrict/4190334.pdf


SHAWNA JOHNSON
https://courts.illinois.gov/SupremeCourt/Docket/2019/Nov/124213_ATB.pdf


Vivian Brown
https://courts.illinois.gov/court/SupremeCourt/Docket/2019/Sep/124100_ATB.pdf

All this “As-Applies to this case” bullshit is getting old. I shouldn’t have to PROVE I am eligible to exercise a constitutional right afforded to everyone. I shouldn’t have to pay a fee to exercise it and I damn sure shouldn’t have to deal with my constitutional right EXPIRING because of Democrap politics.
 

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Oral arguments were heard on the last two last week I believe. Should have a decision soon as to whether or not the Foid will stand or only grant relief to the individuals.
 

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I just had mine renewed early this year. At least it's good for 10 years. Now I've got to do my CC permit. Another $150 + 48 for the class.
 

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Decision on Shawna Johnson has been decided. Here is a short article.

https://www.nprillinois.org/post/supreme-court-foid-decision-could-have-national-influence-lawyer#stream/0

Here is the full decision

https://courts.illinois.gov/Opinions/SupremeCourt/2020/124213.pdf

In short summary, the Supreme Court didn’t address the lower court’s ruling that parts of the Foid act were unconstitutional. Instead, they played a language game to include the right to bear arms as a civil right and that it was not excluded. Her lost rights were restored. Johnson was sentenced to a term of conditional discharge. As part of her sentence, she was statutorily required to “refrain from possessing a firearm or other dangerous weapon.” 730 ILCS 5/5-6-3(a)(3) (West 2000). Additionally, as a collateral consequence of a misdemeanor conviction for domestic violence, she lost her eligibility for a FOID card and, thereby in turn, lost her right to acquire and possess firearms in Illinois. Her rights were restored under Illinois’s regulatory scheme (430 ILCS 65/10(c)(1)-(3) (West 2012)), which affirmatively provided for a “status- altering dispensation.” Logan, 552 U.S. at 32.
 

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Zig, that’s your standard retort to being in a un unfriendly state. In the reality of life that’s not only a very difficult thing to do, it also not the answer. Retreat isn’t the battle cry of the victor. To stand and fight alone is to be Ike Custer’s last stand also. What we have going on are infantry fighting armor. Platoons without without battalion support and a general leading the fight. We need a leader to take this fight all the way to the one court at can deliver the death blow to the unconstitutional enemy. The highest court won’t hear the fight on their own. They have to be forced to hear it.
 

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Zig, that’s your standard retort to being in a un unfriendly state. In the reality of life that’s not only a very difficult thing to do, it also not the answer. Retreat isn’t the battle cry of the victor. To stand and fight alone is to be Ike Custer’s last stand also. What we have going on are infantry fighting armor. Platoons without without battalion support and a general leading the fight. We need a leader to take this fight all the way to the one court at can deliver the death blow to the unconstitutional enemy. The highest court won’t hear the fight on their own. They have to be forced to hear it.
I may have agreed a few years back, but then I moved out of that commie state; being a martyr is not always the best answer. At times we need to retreat to other strongholds in order to keep them strong. When enough people move away from the commie stronghold, then they only have themselves to devour. It's happening as we speak, in may states and large cities. There comes a time when "regrouping" is necessary and allows for greater strongholds.

There was a time when Illinois had a chance; that chance is now gone for a period that will out live me. In my remaining years, I wish to know I may have helped "prevent" another commie takeover.
 
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