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    Quote Originally Posted by EdNerd View Post
    We do have a uniformed armed guard outside. And we are instituting wanding and bag search. So we should be a hard target.

    That being said, this is just another training item that you hope you will never use!
    That's really sad you have to resort to that with your congregation. Is it that large that no one knows everyone - at least by sight?
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    Quote Originally Posted by surevaliance View Post

    That's a big (approx. $70 billion) industry!
    In comparison, there are almost 41,000 cinema theaters (approx. $10 billion) and slightly less than 500 casinos (approx. $40 billion)
    in the US.

    That's also how I see it a big money machine using peoples need to worship to make money, but for some it's important, so who am I to say anything.
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    That's really sad you have to resort to that with your congregation.
    I think it's really sad that I have to worry about house break-ins, idjits at shopping centers, nuts at theaters, etc etc. I think it's really sad that, now in my 60s, all this junk has found its way to my quiet little corner of life, and I now have to learn how to use a gun for more than the fun of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EdNerd View Post
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    We do have a uniformed armed guard outside. And we are instituting wanding and bag search

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    ?!

    Y'all plan on unarming the entire congregation ???
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    Call Larry Allen: [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] One of the most wonderful people I've had the privilege of knowing. He's a pastor, has been in law enforcement for a lot of years and truly knows how to accomplish what you're trying to do.

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    Thank you, Wag!! I'll do that.

    (I'm driving into Albuquerque on Monday. I'm slated to be there until Sep 30. Maybe we can find a cup of coffee in there somewhere.)

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    So take "church" out of the picture and substitute any event or gathering. Company picnic in the park .... political rally .... public auction .... car show ....

    Anywhere there would be a small crowd (40-100 people) and your armed responders are at various separated locarions, and suddenly up pops a black hat situation that needs heavy-duty resolution.

    With a group that is familiar with each other - such as a church congregation - you can instill some training in both the general population and the armed responders. That is the training I am asking about, so a situation suddenly gone sour doesn't get hugely worse for a lack of training.

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    I worked a Safety Team for a mega Church in Central Florida. This is what I suggest:

    1. Recruit LEO's whenever possible.
    2. Issue all members shirts with with Safety team printed on them
    3. Ensure all members except LEO's are licensed for concealed carry.
    4. Have a working relationship with local LEO's
    5. Make sure the team is large enough to cover all the doors
    6. Children should be the piority. Our team was established first for the children then expanded.
    7. Non family individuals with backpacks should always invite inspection.

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    perverts and drunks will be your biggest concern.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EdNerd View Post
    Thank you, Wag!! I'll do that.

    (I'm driving into Albuquerque on Monday. I'm slated to be there until Sep 30. Maybe we can find a cup of coffee in there somewhere.)
    I'll PM my digits to you.

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