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    i favor the 16 for hunting..........and a lot of that is rooted in family tradition.

    i still remember the very first 12 ga i bought for myself......a beautiful Browning 12 ga BPS.......brought it home and showed it to my dad..........first words out of his mouth was why did i not buy a 16?...........decades later and those few words still cut me to the bone.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Squeechy View Post
    Good Point, but can the kick compare to a 16 AWG with medium powered Ammo?



    I can clearly see the the 12 AWG is much more economical, but is it too awful difficult to obtain ammunition for a 20 AWG normally?



    Does this mean difficulty in finding ammunition for the 16, and 20 AWG?



    I wouldn't know exactly myself why the 16 AWG is more popular over there, but that would have been my first choice though after realizing that the ammunition is not very economical I am having second thoughts.
    What exactly is AWG?

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    What ya plan to do with the gun? I think that is also a determining factor in the gauge shotgun someone goes with.

    For Deer Hunting, I go with 12ga because it hits very hard, and gives better odds of a fast, humane kill. The right slug out of a 12ga will drop a deer where it stands. Not saying it can't be done with a 20ga, I used to use one for years hunting. 12 just does it better.

    For Home Defense I favor a 20ga. It still hits very hard, the odds of over penetration is less than 12ga, and if it come down to it, it's a gun the wife can hold up on the bedroom with and get off repeated shots with far less recoil than the 12ga. She's fired my 12s before and they scared the heck out of her, but the 20 she is fine with and runs it like a pro.
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    As somebody else said, supply and demand. IMHO, 12 gauge performs better than the smaller

    more expensive ammo, also.

    You may want to consider getting an autoloader, if recoil is a big issue. But you're going to pay more.

    A lot of pawn shops have a bumper crop of used shotguns.

    It sort of boils down to mind over matter. If you don't mind the recoil on a 12 gauge pump, it don't

    matter. Save the money. If you don't mind paying more for less powerful calibers, it don't matter.

    Get a 20, 16, or 410 gauge.

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    Wouldn't AWG be (American Wire Gauge) and not a reference to a shotgun bore?

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    Most likely, sorry my bad.

    What ya plan to do with the gun? I think that is also a determining factor in the gauge shotgun someone goes with.

    For Deer Hunting, I go with 12ga because it hits very hard, and gives better odds of a fast, humane kill. The right slug out of a 12ga will drop a deer where it stands. Not saying it can't be done with a 20ga, I used to use one for years hunting. 12 just does it better.

    For Home Defense I favor a 20ga. It still hits very hard, the odds of over penetration is less than 12ga, and if it come down to it, it's a gun the wife can hold up on the bedroom with and get off repeated shots with far less recoil than the 12ga. She's fired my 12s before and they scared the heck out of her, but the 20 she is fine with and runs it like a pro.
    Those are exactly the kinds of reasons I am aiming more for something in the middle IE a 16 Gauge meaning for multiple purposes (Home Defense, possibly Hunting, etc)

    As somebody else said, supply and demand. IMHO, 12 gauge performs better than the smaller

    more expensive ammo, also.

    You may want to consider getting an autoloader, if recoil is a big issue. But you're going to pay more.

    A lot of pawn shops have a bumper crop of used shotguns.

    It sort of boils down to mind over matter. If you don't mind the recoil on a 12 gauge pump, it don't

    matter. Save the money. If you don't mind paying more for less powerful calibers, it don't matter.

    Get a 20, 16, or 410 gauge.
    Yes the 12 Gauge is more tempting because of the Ammo Price, and the 16 Gauge is tempting because it is lower powered, but has more bite than a 20 Gauge.

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    Due to the vast amounts of different power 12 ga loads available, it is possible to pick 12 ga loads which produce less felt recoil than do 16 ga or 20 ga loadings.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Popeye View Post
    Due to the vast amounts of different power 12 ga loads available, it is possible to pick 12 ga loads which produce less felt recoil than do 16 ga or 20 ga loadings.
    If that is the case then the 12 Gauge to me would be by far the best choice that anyone can make. I didn't really think in terms of the lower powered 12 Gauge ammo on that one thank you for pointing that out.
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    I can find 20ga pretty much anywhere, but choice of load is generally lacking. It's just the issue of 20 not being nearly as in demand as the 12. That said, I have a Mossberg 500 12 and an CBC Brazilian 20 gauge single shot, which I do get a kick out of shooting. Literally, that thing must weigh about 3 and half pounds...


    And the 20, in most situations, really is almost as effective as a 12 and I think it just gets a bad rap because of these "macho" dudes on the range who say 12 is the minimum for anything ever, no matter what. But to me, a 20 has a lot going for it. About 20% less recoil or so, but of course a smaller payload. But then, also think that it isn't much less than a 12 as far as payload, so maybe in that sense, between the two, just get a 12...

    I just love my guns, so I don't need an excuse to shoot both from time to time. But the only reason to think of a 12ga as so much "better" in my opinion, is the selection of loads due to popularity, as has already been said by other users...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Squeechy View Post
    Most likely, sorry my bad.



    Those are exactly the kinds of reasons I am aiming more for something in the middle IE a 16 Gauge meaning for multiple purposes (Home Defense, possibly Hunting, etc)



    Yes the 12 Gauge is more tempting because of the Ammo Price, and the 16 Gauge is tempting because it is lower powered, but has more bite than a 20 Gauge.

    16 is fine, but most places won't stock ammo for it

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    If you're apprehensive about recoil, go with the 20. If not, 12----the ammo is cheap and plentiful.
    If you go with a 16 or 28, take up reloading. Your wallet will thank you!

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