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    Got enough firearms with cycling issues. Thanks, anyways.
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    I ordered mine from DK Firearms for $375. When I received it it was a brick. Was unable to chamber even 1 round. The problems was the shell guide. There is a small switch similar to the safety on the left side of the lower just ablve the magazine. This switch controls the guide that guides the shell from the magazine to the barrel. When the switch is in the vertical position it is in the down position to facilitate removing the barrel when tearing it down for cleaning. When it is in the horizontal position it is supposed to be in the up position making contact with the barrel acting as a guide for the shells as they enter the barrel for firing. Mine malfunctions and does not make contact with the barrel. Instead it is about half an inch away from the barrel even when the switch is fully horizontal. Therefore when you pull the charging handle back to chamber a round, the round jams against the guide and goes nowhere. I contacted DK firearms and was told to contact PW Arms. I tried several times with no answer and no way to leave a message so I gave up. I took the shotgun to a gunsmith today and he said he can repair the faulty part so all will work out fine however obviously quality control is a big issue with the manufacturer of these firearms and support and warranty work is apparently non existent. The gunsmith said it should be fairly inexpensive to repair and I should have a functional shotgun when all is said and done and for that I am grateful because if I had to return it for repair or exchange I am not sure if that would have been impossible or not. I will keep everyone posted if any other issues are discovered with this shotgun.
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    Thanks for the GOOD info you brought to this AR-12 thread about the FEED RAMP. I was wondering if the 1 Year Warranty was Servisable..<:-(( Look forward to hearing back from you

    Note Added: I shoot 1Oz, MAG Slugs at the range (barrel leads up after not to many rounds), and mine works well as long as they are over 1300ft. speed. I ordered a 10% weaker action Spring for it to make it use slower, weaker, cheaper, rounds.

    Note Added: Barrel leads up fast with Rifled Slugs (no plastic cup)... This is a Great Kit.... The Stainless Wire Brush (a must have) is 5 Stars for removing Lead from Barrel...<:-))
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    Default Feed Ramp. Didn't know that is what it is called

    Quote Originally Posted by SgtKnuckles.007 View Post
    Thanks for the GOOD info you brought to this AR-12 thread about the FEED RAMP. I was wondering if the 1 Year Warranty was Servisable..<:-(( Look forward to hearing back from you

    Note Added: I shoot 1Oz, MAG Slugs at the range (barrel leads up after not to many rounds), and mine works well as long as they are over 1300ft. speed. I ordered a 10% weaker action Spring for it to make it use slower, weaker, cheaper, rounds.

    Note Added: Barrel leads up fast with Rifled Slugs (no plastic cup)... This is a Great Kit.... The Stainless Wire Brush (a must have) is 5 Stars for removing Lead from Barrel...<:-))
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    To reply to your question, yes the warranty is still serviceable. I have only had the firearm for 2 weeks and it has never been fired. I did break it down to clean all the grease out of it but did not notice any problems with it. There is a good website showing just how to break it down and offering some tips to make things easier (I'll try to put the link at the end of my post). All in all I have not read too mush negative about these shotguns so I may just have gotten one put together on a Friday afternoon preceding a holiday weekend. :) I also must admit I only tried a couple of times to contact PW Arms about obtaining warranty work. My thinking was that I will no doubt have to pay shipping both ways and another FFL fee and still wait about 6 weeks to get my shotgun back so I decided to go with a local gunsmith. I may pay a little more to have the gun repaired but I will get it back by the end of this week and the difference in price shouldn't be that big a difference so I opted to take it to the gunsmith. I found him at a gun show and most people I spoke with said he is the best in the area so I feel comfortable with my decision. I still recommend this shotgun. It will be bad ass once it is repaired. If you do get one the first thing I would do is to load up a 5 round mag and cycle the rounds through the shotgun by hand making sure the rounds feed and eject properly. Then break it down and clean the hell put of it. There is another website showing a guy firing at least 100 rounds through the thing in rapid fire (using 10 round magazines) and while he got the barrel to glow red hot the shotgun suffered no ill affects. He then did it again firing another few hundred more rounds until he melted the barrel. In all that not one failure to feed or eject. They say to expect a few stove pipes until you break the shotgun in (I'm told about 30-50 rounds should do the trick), after that is supposed to be as solid as a rock. If anyone else has any different info please let me know. I too will post updates on how things went at the gunsmith, price for repair, and finally a live firing test. I have both 5 and 10 round mags so it should be fun. One tip, I have read on multiple sites that the gun does not like low powered bird shot and target load rounds. The more powerful the round the easier it is to eject and feed the next round. Don't know if that is true but I do have a lot of 2 3/4 target loads laying around so I'll try some after the break in and let you all know. Here is that link. Very good info..

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    That is a Severely Excellent Video on take down, and cleaning...!!!...<:-))

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    Quote Originally Posted by hmcidc View Post
    To reply to your question, yes the warranty is still serviceable. I have only had the firearm for 2 weeks and it has never been fired. I did break it down to clean all the grease out of it but did not notice any problems with it. There is a good website showing just how to break it down and offering some tips to make things easier (I'll try to put the link at the end of my post). All in all I have not read too mush negative about these shotguns so I may just have gotten one put together on a Friday afternoon preceding a holiday weekend. :) I also must admit I only tried a couple of times to contact PW Arms about obtaining warranty work. My thinking was that I will no doubt have to pay shipping both ways and another FFL fee and still wait about 6 weeks to get my shotgun back so I decided to go with a local gunsmith. I may pay a little more to have the gun repaired but I will get it back by the end of this week and the difference in price shouldn't be that big a difference so I opted to take it to the gunsmith. I found him at a gun show and most people I spoke with said he is the best in the area so I feel comfortable with my decision. I still recommend this shotgun. It will be bad ass once it is repaired. If you do get one the first thing I would do is to load up a 5 round mag and cycle the rounds through the shotgun by hand making sure the rounds feed and eject properly. Then break it down and clean the hell put of it. There is another website showing a guy firing at least 100 rounds through the thing in rapid fire (using 10 round magazines) and while he got the barrel to glow red hot the shotgun suffered no ill affects. He then did it again firing another few hundred more rounds until he melted the barrel. In all that not one failure to feed or eject. They say to expect a few stove pipes until you break the shotgun in (I'm told about 30-50 rounds should do the trick), after that is supposed to be as solid as a rock. If anyone else has any different info please let me know. I too will post updates on how things went at the gunsmith, price for repair, and finally a live firing test. I have both 5 and 10 round mags so it should be fun. One tip, I have read on multiple sites that the gun does not like low powered bird shot and target load rounds. The more powerful the round the easier it is to eject and feed the next round. Don't know if that is true but I do have a lot of 2 3/4 target loads laying around so I'll try some after the break in and let you all know. Here is that link. Very good info..
    Thanks hmcidc! I found your post with the video and over the weekend I followed the takedown, "refining", cleaning and lube instructions before taking it out for the first time. When I tried it out yesterday, it worked flawlessly using SuperX 7½ birdshot shells. No stovepipes or FTEs. The G3 model doesn't need high power loads to break it in like the previous generations. BTW, I bought a couple of the Panzer 10 rd mags and are they ever fun to shoot!

    As to the warranty, I bought my AR12 from Classic Firearms and paid the extra $20 for the supplemental lifetime warranty service. Also, it looks like the LimbSaver Airtech Slip-On Recoil Pad is going to be a good add-on:
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