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    Quote Originally Posted by Popeye View Post
    Limp wristing a handgun has to do with the shooter's wrist and grip, not the firearm.
    I understand it had to do with the grip and I also understand how it happens but from the research I have done it seems like a lot of it has to do with the gun as well. Military Arms Channel did a good vid on it showing how it is much harder if not impossible to limp wrist the heavier framed guns like the Sig and CZ he showed.

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    In my day, a "limp wrist" meant something totally different..........
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    I probably should add this. I own a Glock 17 and a Glock 26 and the recoil from both of them is minimal for a 9mm. Don't yet own a 19 but it falls between the 2 others in size and weight so it also wouldn't present any significant recoil. None of the 3 Glock 9mm's you mention should be a contributor to a shooting problem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wehavethetechnology! View Post
    I understand it had to do with the grip and I also understand how it happens but from the research I have done it seems like a lot of it has to do with the gun as well. Military Arms Channel did a good vid on it showing how it is much harder if not impossible to limp wrist the heavier framed guns like the Sig and CZ he showed.
    It is possible, and often easy, to limp wrist any handgun regardless of its size or weight. Do not fall into the trap of blaming the handgun for the actions of the shooter.

    Here it is explained quite accurately:

    Quote Originally Posted by fixitfred View Post
    Not to pick on you but you asked a question. The premise of your question is incorrect but to answer it as accurately as possible as is:

    No. It would be easier to limp wrist it not harder as you surmised. "Limp wristing" is the term used to describe not holding the gun firmly in place enough so the slide can function properly.

    The delayed blowback needs the interaction between the two parts to function properly. One moves (the slide) and one is immobile (the frame). Limp wristing allows the frame to move thus interfering with the relative movement of the slide. Enough movement (limp wristing) and the ejection of the spent round or chambering of the new round will not occur.

    The lighter the gun -- the more felt recoil there is
    The smaller the gun -- the harder it is to grip firmly.

    Both of these occurring either separately or together increases the chances of limp wristing.

    There will be no "limp wristing" phenomena with a firm grip on a compact gun that does not allow it to move. That's why I didn't agree with the premise of your question. There is no direct connection but there is a causal relationship.
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    The term "limp Wrist" is also associated with a habit. The habit in this case is the shooter relaxing as the trigger breaks. This causes the muzzle to drop and shoot? Wherever. Have an experienced handgunner observe your shooting stance and follow through.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fixitfred View Post
    You tried to post a file that is on your local F: drive. It made it to the post on your computer because you have access to the file. It didn't make it to the forum because it doesn't have access to the file and you don't want that.
    You're so right! Of course it worked great on my computer but the F: drive is there. Anyway, I have the source in HTML and javascript but I think I'll just forget it. I don't think too many people would be that interested. The program also computes recoil momentum but only one of the variants that I wrote prints it. One probably has a bit of of a problem visualizing the sensation of something dimensioned as mass times velocity (M*V) or foot pounds (pound-feet) per second. However, per Newtons third law, every action has an equal and opposite reaction and the momentum of the bullet and gases exactly equals the momentum imparted to the gun an shooter. Just be thankful that the bullet energy and recoil energy don't equate. That would translate to lethal recoil from anything more violent than a BB gun.
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    I noticed in my desert shooting trips that after a set count of expended rounds with a .45 auto - usually 300 to 250 rounds - I would begin to experience an occasional "stove-pipe" or failure to "chamber". From experience I knew "shooting fatigue" was setting in, and if I wanted to continue shooting and eliminate these glitches, I needed to be more aware of my offering resistance to the firearm recoil than acting like a shock absorber, aka "limp wristing".

    Limp wristing has its detrimental effects on revolver shooting as well. This is a relaxing of the wrist in anticipation of recoil and it totally eliminates "follow through" at the time if hammer fall.
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    The guy who taught me to shoot a pistol was an Army Ordinance Officer and shot on the Army Pistol team. That instruction called for the middle, ring and little fingers of the gripping hand wrapped securely around the grip. The rear of the grip was held securely in the web of the hand (activating the safety) and the thumb "rested" along side the action below the line of the slide. I was not to ever grip with the thumb. On the first 1911 I shot extensive I experienced some stove piping. this was due to a weak spring and not a relaxed grip.

    If I just had to touch the weapon with my off hand I could set my palm directly under the mag well.

    I don't know the rightness or wrongness of this method but I can hit what I'm aiming at.

    A 1911 in 45 ACP is somewhat unforgiving of those who will not hold on to the damn thing.

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