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    Lots of pretty ones out there, but what would you folks think would be the winner?

    The Colt Gold Cup, one of the Kimbers, Sig, Les Baer, Wilson, Dan Wesson, who?

    I like the classic lines, don't care about rail mounts, want 5" barrel full sized, and hopefully keep things at around $2K, and preferably under if I can.

    I want a pistol that will hold some value, performance and build quality world class,

    I know how the name Colt has always been revered. Are they still a player to be seriously considered (Gold Cup Match?)

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    I gotta ask - do you want a piece of art that also shoots, or a daily shooter that also looks good? Not that I can help you with either. My 1911 is basic and a replica of what my Dad carried in WWII.
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    Dan Wesson or Les Baer would be my choices. And honestly I have been growing more fond of the Baer.
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    I'd be proud to own any 1911 from Les Baer, Ed Brown, Carolina Arms, Wilson Combat or Nighthawk Custom. There are probably a few more names I would add to the list, but I can't think of them at the moment.
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    Out of those you listed, I'd go for a Les, an Ed, or a Wilson. Colt would be an option if I couldn't get any of the others first. I don't think I'd want a Kimber. Heard too many Kimber owners over the years complaining about unusually long break in periods before they would shoot right.

    I love 1911s, but have never owned one of my own. I've had the itch to buy one for a while now, but just might hold off for another year or two until the GI Surplus ones hit. Would love to own one of those just for the history behind them.

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    When I started looking for mine I looked at the ones you have listed. Beautiful to say the least. Just not for me. I wanted a1911 that would be a work horse not a beauty queen. I chose the RIA 1911. It is the one in my avatar pic. I paid under $450 for it NIB. I had the trigger worked on and changed the spring as well so, I have another $50.00 in it. It shoots very very nice I might add.
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    Certainly not trying to stick a pin in a thread I started, but looking at some of the models from Wilson, or Baer, one surely needs some "fat stacks" to play. I was at first thinking the Kimbers, and Colts were high priced. Now I'm not quite so sure?

    I of course understand what some of the differences are, these uber priced pistols are custom hand built-assembled to better exacting tolerances, where the run of the mill Colts and Kimbers are "production" pistols. I also gather a more highly scrutinized selection of the highest quality parts made to enhance accuracy, reliability, and longevity.

    More time and labor invested for one equates to more money spent, same with anything I guess. I see accuracy guarantees with the Wilsons and Baers, and of course won't somehow magically transform an old fart like me into some top competition shooter overnight.

    I am probably correct that most who buy such very expensive pistols "graduate" to such a level, that they've had the rest, and now they want the best.

    Of some of the pistols I've thought about, seem to like, and is in a more "sane" price category, is the Kimber Gold Match. Initially, I felt this was an overly expensive pistol, but perhaps in the realm of things, maybe not? Reckon that depends on how well the pistol holds up, not prone to failures-issues, shoots well, and stands the test of time?

    I imagine none of them "appreciate" considerably in value as they are used over time, so that's not a consideration for any of them. But also imagine some hold their value better. (Probably the Baers-Wilsons)

    I've read some mixed reviews and opinions of the Kimbers, some very good, and some not so good. I think reliability is of course paramount. Doesn't really matter how pretty a firearm would be, it then becomes worthless if it fails, or is plagued with reliability issues. Others say the Kimbers (or perhaps some of them) take a long time to properly settle down, break in, and shoot well.

    Again, I'm no authority about such, and sometimes accounts can be misleading. I know end users can do a myriad of "dumb" things to firearms, then blame the manufacturer about any issues.
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    I just bought a Colt. Bud's $849 including shipping
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    That looks really nice Greg! Me likey very much! Either Grip choice looks great.

    I'm thinking something similar, and had thought that Stainless Steel might be less prone to showing wear over time versus Blued.

    The price also sounds very attractive. For the price of a Les Baer-Wilson, once could sure buy many other things, and a heck of a lot of ammo with the savings.

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    I've been giving one of these serious consideration. [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]

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