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    Crickets? Mine is more like loud radio static (hissss) all the time.
    The difference between a Socialist and a Communist is that the Socialist doesn't have all the guns yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Popeye View Post
    Crickets? Mine is more like loud radio static (hissss) all the time.
    Mine is the exact sound that 12,000,000 crickets would make in a washtub, … all the time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alan R McDaniel Jr View Post
    Mine is the exact sound that 12,000,000 crickets would make in a washtub, … all the time.
    Betcha it took a while to count them all.
    The difference between a Socialist and a Communist is that the Socialist doesn't have all the guns yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Popeye View Post
    Betcha it took a while to count them all.
    I'm retired, it's what I do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Popeye View Post
    Have you ever touched off a .308 Win/7.62x51mm rifle in an enclosed area? I promise, its something you'll only want to do once.
    I have absolutely zero desire to do that... Hence the reason my HD weapon is a pistol caliber carbine.

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    Suppressors are amazing lil' gadgets.
    Think I'll be suppressing most of my stuff next year, still waiting on the can for my .308.
    Apparently it does alright on a 5.56 too though. I'm not sure if my hearing is that far gone
    or if my AR isn't that loud, but it doesn't really bother me to shoot it without earmuffs.
    I will say my 12 gauge with the 18.5" barrel literally hurts my ears without muffs.

    On a semi-related note, has anybody gotten in any trigger time with the Salvo 12 from SilencerCo?

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    Not everyone uses ball ammo for home defense...A 55gr NBT or 69/77gr SMK will ruin your day. Saying the Ar platform in 223/556 is weak for home defense has no merit. Just for the record, there are thousands of dead terrorists that would disagree with the lethality of the 556 and ball ammo. Just because you shoot a 45/9mm/308/shotgun or whatever guarantees you NOTHING. I dont care what you choose for home defense as long as you choose something. But dont tell me my choice sucks because of something you read on the internet.
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    Well , shoot anyone enough times and they'll die.

    However, most of those dead terrorists died to heavy weapons. If you want to claim dead terrorists as evidence of the effectiveness of your HD weapon, you must be defending your home with an Apache helicopter, an A-10, an Abrams MBT, a .50 cal MG.... Or if worst comes to worst an M240 machine gun.... Which happens to be chambered in 7.62.
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    I don't have any problem using an AR in .223 for home defense. I doubt if the BGs willbe laughing it off as ineffective. My preference for a shotgun are that it is extremely effective in both its visual effect and its terminal effect. AND , probably more importantly these day, when I'm talking to the Police and the lawyer representing the family of the recently deceased BG I will say that I had no choice, being in fear for mone and my family's life, but to use my old double barreled hunting shotgun to stop him as opposed to an AR 15 assault weapon with a high capacity 30 round magazine... That's all.

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    Well, if you "Jimminy Cricket" shooters had been using yer Binford 7000 Ear-defender muffs, like was taught in school - had you been in attendance - you might not being the price for yer slothful negligence of personal safety. Unbelievable!

    Excuse me now, I heard dog-whistles......from all directions........somewhere......

    Oh....P.S..........."why is everyone always touting the "lethality" of the .223/5.56mm round?"

    Though I am a .30 caliber rifle advocate, if Osama bin Laden could speak, I'm pretty sure of what he would say about the 5.56mm NATO rounds lethality. Also, I don't own an evil, black rifle. But for those who do and have them for the side role of home defense, you guys aren't bound by Geneva Convention rules, Therefor, hollow-point and exposed lead-tip ammo is allowable. Have you ever seen what these do to coyotes?
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