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    I'm not an expert, but after reading through some of this, it appears to be a verbatim copy of the the '94 weapons act (including dates)


    • `(A) means a magazine, belt, drum, feed strip, or similar device manufactured after the date of enactment of the Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act of 1994 that has a capacity of, or that can be readily restored or converted to accept, more than 10 rounds of ammunition;

    Does this mean it would be illegal for me to possess the magazines that I bought (which were manufactured) in 2007?

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    Anyone know if this expands on the previous assault weapons ban, or if this is an exact copy? Because if it's an exact copy, it'll expire in 10 years and not have a significant effect, other than raising the price of high capacity magazines.

    The bill is H.R. 6257: Assault Weapons Ban Reauthorization Act of 2008 for anyone who wants to look it up themselves.

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    The first of many bills to come I'm sure. We've all seen it coming, I'm already trying to find the money to stock pile extra ammo while I still can.

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    I think we have a couple good years before this stuff starts raising its ugly head. Obama has waaay too much to worry about right now. He has had a meeting with the Treasury folks and the top end security briefing. And as my wife put it after seeing the expression on his face in the press conference right after, Obama just experienced his first (of many) "Oh, shyt what did I get into?" moments. With the economy the way it is, learning that all his give aways will break the economy totally, president Iamlostmydick of Iran isn't just misunderstood and in need of a hug, the Russian really did invade Georgia unprovoked, and Elvis is really dead, I will bet his little liberal head is swimming. Plus, add to this Moveon.org ran a full page ad in the NY Times that announced to the world "We gave Obama 88 million dollars! (possibly illegal) Obama better do what we say!" I will bet the guy is feeling a bit between a rock and a hard place. ANd he hasn;t even drawn his first pay check yet!

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    Can't recall where I heard/read this, but one opinion on this is that the Dems will not touch this for the first two years for fear of a 2010 election backlash.

    If they get a super-majority then, look out!
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    You-all give them tooooooo much credit. They are walking around holding up their heads with their hands since their egos are so inflated. Don't be too sure that they won't just send a flock of chicken sh---iz legislation down the pipe within about six months or less. They have been waiting a long time for this conversion of power and will be ready.

    These folks don't operate using Common Sense or Logic when they make their chess moves its all about emotion and agenda. Hold your breath and watch the pot stir. The Brady Bunch is ecstatic.



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    Quote Originally Posted by sig232 View Post
    You-all give them tooooooo much credit. They are walking around holding up their heads with their hands since their egos are so inflated. Don't be too sure that they won't just send a flock of chicken sh---iz legislation down the pipe within about six months or less. They have been waiting a long time for this conversion of power and will be ready.

    These folks don't operate using Common Sense or Logic when they make their chess moves its all about emotion and agenda. Hold your breath and watch the pot stir. The Brady Bunch is ecstatic.
    Agreed. Now is not the time for gun owners to be on the defensive. We need to go on the offensive and make any legislation against firearms so painful for the the libs that they loose all interest in pushing forward with it. We need to think up every scenario that they could possibly come at us with and cut them off before they even start.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trocisp View Post
    Does this mean it would be illegal for me to possess the magazines that I bought (which were manufactured) in 2007?
    No. Pursuant to 3(a)(2), it would only ban magazines manufactured after the date the bill is signed into law. Applying the ban to make ownership of magazines manufactured prior to the enactment of the ban would constitute a "taking" under the constution. In the event of a taking (most commonly eminent domain), "reasonable compensation" is required. In short, it won't happen. Additionally, they cannot make a law retro-active like that. But if you are intended on purchasing high capacity magazines, the sooner you can get them, the better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sig232 View Post
    You-all give them tooooooo much credit. They are walking around holding up their heads with their hands since their egos are so inflated. Don't be too sure that they won't just send a flock of chicken sh---iz legislation down the pipe within about six months or less. They have been waiting a long time for this conversion of power and will be ready.

    These folks don't operate using Common Sense or Logic when they make their chess moves its all about emotion and agenda. Hold your breath and watch the pot stir. The Brady Bunch is ecstatic.

    I respectfully agree and disagree. Piglosi found out real fast that she holds no real power over the blue dogs from the south and west. These are moderate to conservative dems that refused to budge on a lot of issues. There haver three attempts to re-authorize the AWB in the past three years. None got off the floor or even to committee. Why? Is it because Bush would veto it? No, he stated that he would sign it if it got to his desk. Was it the Republicans in the senate that stopped it? No. It was the blue dogs who refused to get in lock step with Piglosi and her band of traitors. There were several other anti-gun bills that died in this session. I do not see it until the earliest 2010, then and only if they have a super majority of far left loons.

    Do not take what I am saying as permission to go to sleep on this, far from it. Gun owners need to make lots and lots of noise. It is noise makers that get all the attention in DC. When you see bad gun stories in the local papers, challenge them. I saw in my local paper a header that said "Father taught son to shoot rifle." Yep the kid killed his father and uncle with a rifle in another part of the state. But as things panned out, it appears the boy may have been justified as he was being abused sexually and physically by both of these men. It is subtle wording like this that molds the thinking of the sleeping masses.
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    Quote Originally Posted by C-D-P View Post
    Agreed. Now is not the time for gun owners to be on the defensive. We need to go on the offensive and make any legislation against firearms so painful for the the libs that they loose all interest in pushing forward with it. We need to think up every scenario that they could possibly come at us with and cut them off before they even start.

    +1 I agree. Gun owners need to line up all the Democratic members in Congress that support the second amendment. Many union members are hunters, target shooters and gun owners so it will be important to fight the Congress tooth and nail as the legislation rears its ugly head.

    I hope to see a Congress divided on gun issues. If not we are in for quite a trip.



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