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    Terms like “public interest” and “common good” are code words that mean police state and reduced liberty.
    Truth, tragically.

    Free market capitalism hasn’t existed in the U.S., or much of anywhere else for that matter, in more than 100 years.
    Except for moonshiners and until very recently, the pot 'business'.
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    The link in that article was also interesting.
    October 1993
    by C. Bradley Thompson
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    Simply put: socialism rewards sloth and penalizes hard work while capitalism rewards hard work and penalizes sloth.


    According to socialist doctrine, there is a limited amount of wealth in the world that must be divided equally between all citizens.
    One person’s gain under such a system is another’s loss.

    According to the capitalist teaching, wealth has an unlimited growth potential and the fruits of one’s labor should be retained in whole by the producer.
    But unlike socialism, one person’s gain is everybody’s gain in the capitalist system. Wealth is distributed unequally but the ship of wealth rises for everyone.

    Sadly, America is no longer a capitalist nation. We live under what is more properly called a mixed economy–that is, an economic system that permits private property, but only at the discretion of government planners. A little bit of capitalism and a little bit of socialism.

    When government redistributes wealth through taxation, when it attempts to control and regulate business production and trade, who are the winners and losers? Under this kind of economy the winners and losers are reversed: the winners are those who scream the loudest for a handout and the losers are those quiet citizens who work hard and pay their taxes.
    As a consequence of our sixty-year experiment with a mixed economy and the welfare state, America has created two new classes of citizens. The first is a debased class of dependents whose means of survival is contingent upon the forced expropriation of wealth from working citizens by a professional class of government social planners. The forgotten man and woman in all of this is the quiet, hardworking, lawabiding, taxpaying citizen who minds his or her own business but is forced to work for the government and their serfs.

    The return of capitalism will not happen until there is a moral revolution in this country. We must rediscover and then teach our young the virtues associated with being free and independent citizens. Then and only then, will there be social justice in America.

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    It'll take 3 extra cups just tackle that post. Not that it isn't worth reading. It's just that a lot of caffeine is required.

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    This article starts off with " We the People..."

    After reaching this sentence in the 2nd paragraph, I stopped reading......

    "The economic anxiety, spiritual malaise, and geopolitical unease gripping America these days has nothing to do with Donald Trump and his hostile takeover of the Republican Party."


    I figure that anyone who considers Trump's popularity vote, from "We the People", a "hostile take over" is not worth my reading.

    The "We the People" put Trump where he is in spite of the RNC's continued effort (along with others) to smear and discredit him.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ziggidy View Post
    This article starts off with " We the People..."

    After reaching this sentence in the 2nd paragraph, I stopped reading......

    "The economic anxiety, spiritual malaise, and geopolitical unease gripping America these days has nothing to do with Donald Trump and his hostile takeover of the Republican Party."


    I figure that anyone who considers Trump's popularity vote, from "We the People", a "hostile take over" is not worth my reading.

    The "We the People" put Trump where he is in spite of the RNC's continued effort (along with others) to smear and discredit him.
    I'll simplify it for you by hitting only the high points. You'll have to read the rest of it to gain a fuller understanding.


    The economic anxiety, spiritual malaise, and geopolitical unease gripping America these days has nothing to do with Donald Trump

    Nor, amazingly, does it have anything to do with Hillary Clinton

    Nor does it have anything to do with the collapse of the GOP

    Nor is it the result of the Obama administration

    Don't think that electing a new president is going to ameliorate matters

    nor the Congress

    And don't even think about what should be the last and least branch of the federal government, the courts

    Nor should we look to the several states for succor

    The fault, as it turns out, lies in ourselves

    So forget Republicans (weak, disgraced descendants of the Party of Lincoln); the Democrats (a criminal organization masquerading as a political party); the Libertarians (dope-smoking pacifist crackpots, mostly) and the various other barnacles on the body politic. The time is right and the time is now for a restoration of American principles, effected by Americans, for Americans.

    Economic and personal freedom under a Constitutional framework -- no matter whose ox is gored -- is the real path to Making America Great Again; to continue on the path we're currently on is not only the road to serfdom but to slavery.
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    Thanks for the Cliff notes....(they still have those?)

    Anyway, my point is / was "his hostile takeover of the Republican Party" (which you left out of the summary).

    What "hostile" takeover? People voted to get him where he is today....."we the people". Is it being suggested that "we the people" have deiced to take a stand, and in doing so selected Trump? That would mean that "we the people" had a takeover of the Republican Party - BUT to call it hostile? I would consider the RNC's response is everything hostile.

    Calling it "hostile" is a democratic tactic. Call it a name and soon everyone will believe it.

    This article, although has some valid points, starts off very badly and sets a bad tone for me.

    (when I say "we the people", I am saying America, not specifically or necessarily including myself.)

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    You still haven't read the article.
    The difference between a Socialist and a Communist is that the Socialist doesn't have all the guns yet.

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    The RNC is the cash cow for the Bush Eastern Elitist. They and their head wrangler Karl Rove are fighting like hell to save their "Cash Cows".

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