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    With all the noobs and boobs running out to buy guns these days, I thought I'd go through a quick Safety Check List. These are a few things that have kept me alive and the people around me alive and un-perforated low these 58 years. In no particular order, as most all gun safety points are concurrent with each other:

    * Never touch a firearm that you do not intend to hold with confidence and authority. By that I mean that when handling firearms a person should have control of the weapon. It's not going to bite and it must be held so that it will be under your complete control.

    * Never point or allow the muzzle to sweep anything you do not intend to put a hole in. Guns are relatively simple in this regard. The bullet comes out of the muzzle and travels in a, more or less for all intents and purposes, straight line until something stops it. It's just physics, not magic.

    * Upon taking a weapon into your possession and keeping the muzzle pointed in a safe direction, open and lock open the action, clearing the chamber and magazine. If the magazine is detachable, drop it. If the magazine is integral, clear it in the prescribed manner for the particular make and model.

    * Check the chamber again.

    * At no time, cleared or not is it ever acceptable to cause or allow the muzzle to cover another person or something you do not want to perforate.

    * Do not touch the trigger. Of all the gizmos on any gun the one thing that will invariably set in motion the mechanism for causing a discharge is to touch the trigger. That's what it's there for and unless your intent is to set those mechanisms in motion, DO NOT TOUCH IT.

    * In crowded areas, like gun shows, there is absolutely no reason what so ever to aim a firearm at anything other than the floor. If you do, you will at some point cause or allow the muzzle to cover something that doesn't need to have a hole in it. Obviously fit and feel are important. A gun show is not the place to figure this out.

    * Firearms are equipped with safeties. They are not to be trusted. A firearm "On Safe" is not "Safe" unless all other safety precautions are followed.
    note: In my experience, I have seen two rifles discharge upon clicking the safety off. I
    was holding one of them in my hands and was standing next to the fellow using his
    rifle while hunting on the other one. Both of them were sporterized Mauser 98s
    with Bueller safeties. Both were, coincidentally 25-06s, one with a set trigger and
    the other with a Timney trigger. My friend was ready to take a shot at a buck and
    flipped the safety off, the rifle fired. I was unloading my rifle upon returning to my
    after hunting and flipped the safety off to open the bolt and it discharged at that
    time. In both instances the bullet caused no damage because the muzzle was
    pointed in a safe direction.

    * If I follow the procedures described above in clearing a weapon and hand it to you, I expect you to do the same. If you hand me a weapon, I am going to clear it as well. No matter how many times you and I stand there and hand a weapon back and forth, my expectation is that it will be cleared each time it changes hands. If I clear a weapon, set it down and come back to it in 5 minutes, I check and clear it again.

    * There are no good excuses for lapses in gun safety, only excuses.

    * There are some firearms that lend themselves to safety more than others. Double barrel and break open shotguns simple break the action open. Double action revolvers (most), swing the cylinder open. There are others that by their design require more care and attention. Single action revolvers (older models) require loading at half cock, going to full cock and then de-cocking. Most Semi-autos require cocking and de-cocking. Lever, pump, semi-auto and some bolt action rifles and shotguns (without detachable magazines) require cycling the rounds through the action to unload. Extra care and attention must be exercised when doing this to keep the muzzle pointed in a safe direction. Many times people become more concerned with where the cycled rounds are falling than where their muzzle is pointed.

    * The statement "it's unloaded" is grounds for an asswhoopin if the muzzle covers me.

    * When I clear a break open firearm I look through the barrels. Semi-autos and pumps with detachable magazines I clear by dropping the magazine, opening the action and both looking at and sticking my little finger in the chamber, and unloading the magazine until I can touch the follower. Semi_autos, pumps and lever actions I cycle to clear all rounds, look at and stick my little finger in the chamber and look to make sure I can see the follower in a tubular magazine. Double action revolvers the cylinder is unloaded and checked and single action revolvers are clicked and rotated 13 times after clearing all rounds from the cylinder. That means I have looked at each chamber twice and one of them 3 times. After doing this the firearm is handled and treated as if it were fully loaded.

    * Before hunting with or firing any firearm and after having cleared the weapon to the best of my ability, I open (or remove) the bolt and check the bore to be sure it is clear of any obstructions. On nearly all but bolt actions and break open actions this process requires looking down the bore from the muzzle. I feel that checking the bore is a necessary part of gun safety and there is simply no other way to accomplish the check. It is done ONLY after clearing the weapon and double checking that clear.

    * Crossing fences with a loaded firearm is inexcusable. The firearm should have the action cleared and laid flat on the ground on the opposite side of the fence. It should never be leaned against the fence or held while crossing. Firearms should never be leaned against a tree or vehicle in an upright position. Any time a firearm is not in your direct control it should be unloaded.

    * Entering or exiting a hunting blind should ONLY be done with an unloaded firearm.

    * A firearm should be cased ONLY after it has been cleared completely.

    *Obviously, there are instances when firearms are loaded and ready to fire. In concealed carry situations, having an unloaded gun is about like having no gun at all. Extreme care and attention should be maintained in these situations. The fully loaded gun should be treated exactly like an unloaded gun (except for the checking the bore part).



    I'm quite sure there are more rules. Feel free to add to or amend any that I have written. Perhaps Newbies reading this will learn something and the experienced will be reminded. We all need reminding from time to time. I never lose the opportunity to point out the damage done by hunting bullets to animals killed. I point out that bullets have no conscience and they do the same damage regardless of what flesh and bone they encounter.

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    Don't mix exlax and sleeping pills. Nothing to do with guns just good advice.

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    You about covered the safety part but I have a Remington 25-06 I have had for years and I love but it has discharged twice when coming off safety. Once when I was going to take a shot at a deer, I clicked off safety and it fired. I don`t know who was surprised the most, me or the deer. Second time muzzle was pointed down and it discharged in the ground. I had 2 different gunsmiths look at it to no avail. I am VERY careful when I take it out now. I`m VERY careful around firearms anyway but I don`t trust it so it stays in the safe a lot. I hate it too cause I love that round.
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    Alan, Good idea and great job!
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    looks like a good sticky to me,, good job very detailed and to the point
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    Older Remington model 700s have the same safety issuses. Its a well documented problem and there is even a fix available through Remington. There is a movie about it called (Remington under fire). The Taurus 24/7 is also able to fire upon being dropped. Complacency with firearms leads to accidents.
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    Excellent Post!


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    Firearm Safety (simplified)


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    Each and every year I see the headlines where a hunter or his buddy pulled out the rifle from behind the truck seat and shot himself or his buddy.
    Safety is between your ears. Has nothing to do with guns. Guns are mechanical devices. I've seen guys get their fingers cut off around industrial equipment. Again....safety is knowing what you're dealing with. Nothing more and nothing less. Most of the time...education is key to avoiding accidents. Unless you're under a corporate policy for training....this means it's left up to you to decide what is safe and what is not.
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    Thanks, but I didn't make it up. It's tried and true principles of Gun safety. Some of it I learned by watching and learning with the eyes and ears on the front and sides of my head and some of it I learned by my Dad tapping it none-to-gently into the back of my head. I didn't go into actually shooting or range rules.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alan R McDaniel Jr View Post
    Thanks, but I didn't make it up. It's tried and true principles of Gun safety. Some of it I learned by watching and learning with the eyes and ears on the front and sides of my head and some of it I learned by my Dad tapping it none-to-gently into the back of my head. I didn't go into actually shooting or range rules.

    Alan
    Actually....all of that sounds kinda dangerous, and lacking in many ways....even if you can't spell or write English well. This is exactly what the government wants and is looking for. Any reason you might not be fit to own a gun. How do we sway their decisions now?
    Keep talking.
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