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    As we head into the most consequential election in our republic's history, you can listen to what you want to hear or what you need to hear.

    Hillary Clinton was far closer to winning than most realize, and whatever liar or crazy Democrats nominate for 2020 will have the identical advantages Clinton enjoyed. Furthermore, much of the rhetoric espoused by our Trump nationalist side is almost verbatim what Democrats circa 2016 said; as Yogi Berra once quipped, it's déjà vu all over again.

    Democrats three years ago:

    Make history; shatter the glass ceiling; there are more of us than of you (Republicans); 50-state landslide; we'll win Texas; Republicans will vote for Clinton.

    Republicans in 2019:

    There are more of us than of you (Democrats); we'll win 480 electoral votes; we got this; majority of minority voters will President Trump; what time is the buy-one-get-one early bird dinner special?

    Electorate's Ignorance

    Most of the Republican electorate thinks elections are won on policy and ideology. This is wholly inaccurate. Democrats view elections in shades of black and white; there's a winner and a loser. Republicans view elections in shades of gray, meaning let's be all things to all people, and then somehow, we'll garner enough votes because we're appealing to everyone. This, of course, is the exact opposite of how elections are won, especially considering that red states no longer exist; they're only blue or purple.

    A Democrat needs a combination of only a few swing states to win the presidency. Clinton received 85 percent of the 270 electoral votes she needed from 19 states and Washington, D.C. She won 227 electoral votes, leaving her 43 shy.

    Let's look at the electoral vote count in each of the seven swing states we won. States are listed in descending order of votes, with percentage margin of victory (rounded down or up, for simplicity):

    1. FL; 29; 1 percent
    2. PA; 20; .75
    3. OH; 18; 8
    4. MI; 16; .25
    5. NC; 16; 3.5
    6. WI; 10; .75
    7. IA; 6; 10

    Let's remove OH, NC, and IA out of the equation. That leaves 75 electoral votes, and Clinton needed 43 of those. How she gets to 43:

    FL and PA
    PA, MI and WI
    FL and MI

    So if Clinton wins any of the above combinations (meaning she truly needed only two or three states), we lose. Let me repeat: Clinton needed only two to three states out of 50 to win.

    Libertarian candidate Gary Johnson received approximately 1 million votes in the aforementioned seven swing states (he received a nationwide total of 4.5 million). Yes, had Johnson's name not been on the ballot, our margins of victory would have been higher in each of the seven. In 2020, we won't have a third-party candidate to pull votes from our tally, but, conversely, millions of Democrats who didn't vote in 2016 will be eager to cast bloodthirsty anti-Trump votes next year (for Joe Biden, as I predicted months ago). And why did most of those Democrats stay home? Because, I suspect, they thought Clinton would win in a landslide.

    I see essentially the same scenario playing out next year.

    Underestimating the Enemy

    What many on our side don't comprehend is that the Democrats today are who they've always been. Obama has always believed what today's Democrats believe. When he was running for president, however, he understood that elections are shades of white and black; it was John McCain and Willard Romney who saw the elections in shades of gray. Obama, remember, admonished immigrants to get in line and learn English. Did Obama really believe that? Not at all, but he understood that what he wanted was irrelevant; what was relevant was the messaging that would get him the most votes. Obama knew he was going to win 2008 no matter what, but he played as though he was trailing, and he played to annihilate the GOP – and he did.

    A few weeks ago, I attended a talk by former House speaker Newt Gingrich, hosted by the Republican Jewish Coalition, a national non-profit. I hold Gingrich in high esteem. His speech – with topics ranging from the threat from China to the threat posed by the Democratic Party – was, as usual, spot-on, except for his Trump re-election projection of 480 electoral votes. (To obtain 480, we'd need to win every state, save California and New York.)

    I heard Gingrich say we're embroiled in a culture war and that the Democrats are cuckoo crazy...but Trump will win 480 electoral votes? I doubt that Gingrich truly believes this; he was telling us what we want to hear, because we prefer to hear what we want rather than what we need. My admiration for Gingrich notwithstanding, he is incorrect, and is doing us no favors. We can't win a war if we're unaware that we're at war. And if we're aware, we can't win if we don't understand that the war will be long and arduous. The Democratic Party is the most dangerous group in the history of our republic, foreign or domestic – more than the Islamic supremacists, more than the Nazis, more than the Soviets and more than the communists. Yes, the aforementioned groups all posed (and some continue to pose) existential threats to the U.S. and the West, but the Democrats embody the enemy within.

    Confidence is necessary, and we should expect to win big. Hubris, however, is the cardinal sin in sales and winning elections. We have an opportunity to win 35—40 states, but only if we convince ourselves that we're losing 35—40 states. I've asked dozens and dozens of Republicans to show me the pathway to a landslide, and none has been able to. Winning teams always play scared, urgent with a sense of urgency. It's not that Democrats are merely motivated; they're in a trance-like state of hatred toward us and Trump. I see a president who recognizes that politics is sales (promises made, promises kept) and understands innately that nothing is guaranteed and that every win is hard fought. Clinton actually believed that the landslide balderdash that came out of her mouth and the DMIC (Democrat Media Industrial Complex). On the bright side, at least our side isn't publicly asking why we aren't 50 points ahead.


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    This is the sort of advice we need embrace wholeheartedly!
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    "The Democratic Party is the most dangerous group in the history of our republic, foreign or domestic – more than the Islamic supremacists, more than the Nazis, more than the Soviets and more than the Communists."

    And ALL the people who hate Trump will be out to vote for his opponent. Wait until the votes are counted and found to exceed the actual number of registered voters. Even greater than the number of American Citizen "eligible voters". Why, those "madcap Illegal Alien voters" of the DEMOCRATS could actually sway the outcome.
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    Trump has a lot of capital going into this election season. The economy and stock markets are doing well. Unemployment is at record lows. Black and Hispanic unemployment is also low. ISIS is almost kaput. 34% of blacks have a favorable opinion of President Trump. And the RNC raised a $125 million in the third quarter of this year.

    Plus there is no outstanding candidate on the Democrat side. Biden is an old pervert and senile to boot. Warren is a proven liar and has crazy plans, like medicare-for-all, etc., Sanders is old and loss a good amount of voter support since his 2016 run. Willie Brown's whore's campaign is floundering and she isn't that likeable. Buttplug probably has the best shot, but he doesn't have the experience or charisma that will attract voters.

    And the impeachment BS will simply energizer Trump supporters to the polls next November.
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    While we're not underestimating the enemy, we can't OVERESTIMATE ourselves.

    Be SURE to VOTE, don't just "assume it's in the bag".

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    Just do what the democrats do. Get out and vote-often. Make sure to get your dead friends and relatives to the polling places.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Russ D View Post
    While we're not underestimating the enemy, we can't OVERESTIMATE ourselves.

    Be SURE to VOTE, don't just "assume it's in the bag".
    I agreed with this 100%. Do not assume that we will win, go to VOTE as you life depends on it (Because it does!)
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    Anti-gun multi-billionaire Bloomberg wants to buy the election. Do not underestimate the power of money.

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    "Hate" for Trump is a greater "vote motivator" than love for the economy. Again, it will come down to the Electoral College and the manner in which the "Communist-DEMOCRAT Party" can invalidate that result with the broad assistance of the MSM branch of the party.

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    Complacency is what will do us in and get the Dems elected. We'd better get ourselves and other like-minded people out to vote.

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