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    Default Sanders Says 'Population Control' Would Be Part of His Climate Agenda

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    Bernie Sanders told the CNN townhall on climate change that he would make population control part of his agenda to fight global warming.

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    An audience member asked Sanders about "educating everyone on the need to curb population growth.""Human population growth has more than doubled in the past 50 years. The planet cannot sustain this growth. I realize this is a poisonous topic for politicians, but it's crucial to face," the audience member asked. "Empowering women and educating everyone on the need to curb population growth seems a reasonable campaign to enact. Would you be courageous enough to discuss this issue and make it a key feature of a plan to address climate catastrophe?"

    "The answer is yes," Sanders responded. "And the answer has everything to do with the fact that women in the United States of America, by the way, have a right to control their own bodies and make reproductive decisions."

    "Population control" as a measure to save the planet has been shown to be horse manure six ways from Sunday. It's the old Malthusian nightmare that population growth is potentially exponential while the growth of the food supply is linear. But Malthusianism fails to account for human ingenuity in using technology and improved methods to massively increase the potential food supply.

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    Stanford University biologist Paul Ehrlich wrote that "Most of the people who are going to die in the greatest cataclysm in the history of man have already been born." He added that by 1975, "some experts feel that food shortages will have escalated the present level of world hunger and starvation into famines of unbelievable proportions." In 1970, he revised his prediction for the worse to warn us, as Perry writes, that "between 1980 and 1989, some 4 billion people, including 65 million Americans, would perish in the 'Great Die-Off.'"

    It wasn't just food that would disappear. Erlich and Nobel economist Julian Simon made a famous bet about commodities in 1980:

    Ultimately, Simon challenged Ehrlich to a wager. Ehrlich believed that population growth meant increased scarcity and, hence, higher commodity prices. Simon believed that "more people meant more brains," which means better extraction technologies, more efficient methods of production, and the more efficient use of commodities—all of which lead to lower commodity prices.The bet itself was meant to determine whether commodity prices would rise or fall over the period from 1980-1990. If they fell, that would mean that the commodities became more abundant. If instead they rose, that would have signaled that commodities became scarcer. Simon was willing to bet that over any number of years, inflation-adjusted commodity prices would fall.

    Needless to say, Simon won.

    Simon's theory proved remarkably prescient. In 1970, China and India were net importers of food. By the end of the decade, both nations were exporting food. And yet, Erlich was predicting the worst famines in human history in those two nations by the 1980s.

    If we take Simon's theory to heart, more people means more brains working on the problem of climate change. But liberals' brains aren't wired to think that way. Sanders believes in addition by subtraction -- a wholly ignorant and illogical way of thinking that would lead us to catastrophe.

    Advocating population control leads to all sorts of evils, including eugenics, forced sterilizations, and infanticide. But if it's going save us from global warming...

    I'll take my chances.




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    I fear his lust for power has made him insane.
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    Let’s start with all the liberals.
    That would go a long way to save the planet.
    Bernie and his family could lead the way.
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    Just look at Bernie's eyes and gestures during his speeches. Of course he is insane. And from observations of the "other Mook" candidates, it is probably contagious.

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    population is a major factor in the destruction of earth if you do not believe in climate change. How do you propose we reduce the population when people refuse to control their urges? or get themselves fixed so they don&#39;t have to control their urges? Bernie may be out of touch about US population. By my understanding the US population is declining native population white indian african american. . People would notice if not for all the immigrants and illegals supplanting the numbers. biggest factor is chemicals that act like estragen that is so prevalant in everything. making us men more feminine and reducing our sperm counts. combined with its expensive raising children in the US. I like bernie but I draw the line at population control because everyones going to go back on the eugenics programs pr worse way of thinking and I say screw anyone who does. People with disabilities have just as much right to live as everyone else.</p>
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    I think Jim Jones had similar ideas......
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    Until you control the Africans, Muslims, Indians and Chinese, nothing will matter
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    An audience member asked Sanders about "educating everyone on the need to curb population growth.""Human population growth has more than doubled in the past 50 years. The planet cannot sustain this growth.

    I will bet that Bernie is historically illiterate, and out right stupid in ways, and I don't even know where to start. But I can discount what he said by looking at Minnesota, the Dakotas, Iowa and Nebraska, as a region. That may be the most productive land in the world in ways, with corn and wheat, and livestock out the wazoo.

    And that is not even taking Kansas, Oklahoma and Texas in account, what I am saying is, all I need to look at is regions, and I know that Bernie is a horses ass, and illiterate about farms and ranches.

    I went through Ohio a few times during growing season, and I saw soybeans and cornfields that were unreal. Maybe Bernie should do the same, maybe he needs to drive through Ohio or Iowa.

    We grow enough crops and raise enough livestock, to feed a billion people. If India and China would get it in gear, they could feed their own and then export. Bernie is full of it.
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    How our increased population in the USA (150 million in the early 1950's, 320 million today) effects our Standards of Living and Quality of Life, is a very valid topic. And we need to realize that some resources are limited.How are the roads, freeways and traffic different from 25 years ago in your area? Is water plentiful? How's the air quality as seasons change?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stevejet View Post
    How our increased population in the USA (150 million in the early 1950's, 320 million today) effects our Standards of Living and Quality of Life, is a very valid topic. And we need to realize that some resources are limited.How are the roads, freeways and traffic different from 25 years ago in your area? Is water plentiful? How's the air quality as seasons change?
    How about all of the illegals draining resources to tackle those other issues? How about the fed folks get out of ALL social issues and leave them to the state - that includes healthcare, welfare, school lunches, and on and on.

    Population control needs to start with those countries who cannot feed themselves
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