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    Default Time to confront the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact

    Paul S. Gardiner
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    It is truly time to effectively confront and oppose the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact (NPVIC), which is nothing less than an attempted end run around the constitutionally established operations of the Electoral College embedded by America's Founders in Article II of the United States Constitution. The NPVIC is largely funded and promoted by wealthy, politically leftist donors primarily living in and around large cities on the West and East Coasts of the United States.

    Because the Electoral College is an integral part of the Constitution, the proper and perhaps only valid legal course of action to change the operations of the college is through the amendment process allowed and stipulated in Article V of the Constitution.

    For years, there have been discussions about the pros and cons of the Electoral College and the manner in which state electors cast votes in national elections. Some observers believe that the Founders exhibited true genius by designing the Electoral College to prevent regional candidates from dominating national elections. Today, this equates to preventing the constant election of presidential and vice presidential candidates strongly supported by wealthy donors principally living in highly populated East and West Coast states. Without the Electoral College, a large number of less populated states, perhaps 30 or more, would seldom, if ever, have candidates elected whom they strongly support. This situation most definitely is not what the Founders intended for America's national elections and constitutional republic.

    Some observers believe that the voting process of the Electoral College is unfair. They say the system is undemocratic because the number of electoral votes is not directly proportional to the population of the state. This gives smaller states a disproportionate influence in presidential elections. There are other arguments, pro and con, concerning the operations of the Electoral College and its impact on presidential elections.

    Thus far, there has been minimal news coverage of the NPVIC (some say it has been "flying under the radar") and what it is attempting to accomplish outside the actions that the organization could take and support using Article V of the Constitution. According to information on the NPVIC website, as of August 20, 2019, there are a total of 196 electoral votes committed to the NPVIC by 15 states through legislation (the National Popular Vote Bill). Only 74 additional electoral votes are needed to meet the required threshold of 270 electoral votes to "spring" the NPVIC into effect, resulting in the election (continual election!) of national candidates primarily supported only by East and West Coast states.

    It is hoped that the above information will serve as a big red flag about the actions and intentions of the NPVIC. Appropriate actions soon need to be taken to counter the NPVIC and its plan to circumvent the intent of the Founders regarding the purpose and value of the Electoral College.




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    Everything they do is aimed at destroying this country.
    If they hadn't already established ways for non citizens to vote. They wouldn't be working on this.
    The worst part is. They're too stupid to see the eventual outcome of their actions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PrairieHunt View Post
    Everything they do is aimed at destroying this country.
    If they hadn't already established ways for non citizens to vote. They wouldn't be working on this.
    The worst part is. They're too stupid to see the eventual outcome of their actions.
    IMO they do perceive their actions as to the outcome,, their goal in all they do is the downfall of this country
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    I'm continually amazed but, maybe I shouldn't be, by the number of people who don't really understand the difference between a Constitutional Republic (which the US is) and a democracy. People should read the Federalist Papers and the debates surrounding them occurring among our founders over such things as "electors" and the "electoral college".
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    Quote Originally Posted by gvaldeg1 View Post
    I'm continually amazed but, maybe I shouldn't be, by the number of people who don't really understand the difference between a Constitutional Republic (which the US is) and a democracy. People should read the Federalist Papers and the debates surrounding them occurring among our founders over such things as "electors" and the "electoral college".
    Many youths of the USA cannot read them.
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