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    Friend who provided Dayton shooter with 100-round magazine and body armor faces federal charges

    When Kollie filled out the ATF paperwork to obtain the Draco pistol in May, the affidavit says, he checked the "no" box when asked whether he had been a regular user of marijuana or any other controlled substance.

    Agents explained they were going to search Kollie, in accordance with a search warrant issued earlier that day, and Kollie produced a bag of marijuana and a .38 Special revolver, the affidavit says. He also told the agents that he grew psychedelic mushrooms at his home and explained the process to them, according to the affidavit.

    "Kollie stated that he micro-doses the mushrooms on a constant basis, saying it provides him with energy and is 'fun,'" the affidavit says.
    Asked why he lied on the federal firearms form, Kollie allegedly told agents that "if he told the truth about his drug use, he would not be allowed to purchase a firearm."

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    when other peoples are responsible for selling stuff to others is when stuff of any kind will cease to be available
    Btw I think responsibility lies with the owner of said stuff what you do with it once you bought it is no concern to the person who sold it to you (legal stuff of course)
    Edit: in the case of a firearm if you cheat lie and circumvent the process to get it it's even less the seller's business, the seller was given a set of rules to follow he followed them end of the story
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kobs View Post
    when other peoples are responsible for selling stuff to others is when stuff of any kind will cease to be available
    Btw I think responsibility lies with the owner of said stuff what you do with it once you bought it is no concern to the person who sold it to you (legal stuff of course)
    Edit: in the case of a firearm if you cheat lie and circumvent the process to get it it's even less the seller's business, the seller was given a set of rules to follow he followed them end of the story
    Yep. Dude got caught lying on a form.

    Federal investigators emphasized that there was no evidence that Kollie knew how Betts would use the equipment or that Kollie intentionally took part in the planning.

    The accusations came as prosecutors unsealed charges against Kollie that they said were unrelated to the Aug. 4 shooting in Dayton, Ohio.

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    They are both responsible. you ever consider the stuff he sold to the shooter might have been items the shooter was not allwed to posses for some reason? Or items the shooter did not want on his own record as possesing?



    Also we don't know if law enforcement was watching the shooter beforehand. So by selling it and by not going through normal channels like a firearms dealer there was no public record to be tracked, which might have tipped the law enforcement.



    Why do you think they require us to get a purchase permmit from the police chief to buy a hand gun in the first place.



    My guess the body armor was of a type that required special permit to buy and my guess the shooter would not have qualified in the first place. Also the shooter if he had gone through proper channels to aquire the body armor he would of been redflagged for further checks when he failed the innicial application. Which means he might been put on law enforcement radar if the above person had not cercumvented curent laws regarding purchase of such items .



    I know dragon skin armor was a restricted purchase type armor . Before the army banned it due to defective design by army standards.

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    you mention "friend" was this friend a "licensed firearms dealer"? Or a person with "special permits" to purchase certain classes of restricted gear?
    Assumming the gear was restricted?

    my previous comment was based on Friend being person with permits to purchase certain gear the general public is not allowed access too or as a strawhat buyer.

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    Us as in who? I don't need any purchase permit to buy a handgun or rifle. I can buy on the spot. Takes about 5 mins from the time i say to my dealer i want this one till im out the door.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gimp View Post
    you mention "friend" was this friend a "licensed firearms dealer"? Or a person with "special permits" to purchase certain classes of restricted gear?
    Assumming the gear was restricted?

    my previous comment was based on Friend being person with permits to purchase certain gear the general public is not allowed access too or as a strawhat buyer.

    What is with all the gibberish in this post?
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    Mini14 to be honest I been trying to figure this guys motive since he's joined here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coalcracker View Post
    Us as in who? I don't need any purchase permit to buy a handgun or rifle. I can buy on the spot. Takes about 5 mins from the time i say to my dealer i want this one till im out the door.
    Thats because you live in the US. I live in the communist utopia of NJ.

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    You guys need to move next door.
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