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    Those who would give up Rights for the promise of Security will soon have neither.
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    The difference between a Socialist and a Communist is that the Socialist doesn't have all the guns yet.

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    And in order to have authoritarian control - by taking away the rights of people to own guns, this is how they keep their control. Our gun rights are their "checks and balances."
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    And yet, JFK was an NRA member and a "classical liberal".........Even LBJ, and Carter were gun owners
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fitasc Shooter View Post
    And yet, JFK was an NRA member and a "classical liberal".........Even LBJ, and Carter were gun owners
    Laws are for the rif-raf not for the elite.
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    JFK being a classic liberal is NOT the same as today's Leftists - the differences are easy enough to Google.
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    So newbie John Preston, are you a DemocRat? You’re willing to give up freedoms for security? You want some stuff on everyone else’s hard labor as long as you get stuff for free? You think it was all rosie back in the 50’s. No it wasn’t. It was just that we weren’t carrying thousands of illegals, free loaders and entitled citizens. People wanted to work. They did what ever they had to to provide for themselves and their families. Nothing was beneath them. It was work, honest days work for an honest dollar. Now we carry so many free loaders that it’s choking us. Is it their fault? Not entirely. The do good, we’ll take care of you and everyone will be your friend attitude is just wrong. It breeds laziness and dependence. You can keep your revolver if that makes you happy but when the government has to “ corrected” or the SHTF I’ll be the guy with his AR standing on my own two feet shooting any MF’er who feels that they are entitled to my food and survival. Now go back where you came from and stop trolling for anymore reactions.

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    What made America seem so great to the citizens here and those around the world was basically "Freedoms of Choices".

    The DEMOCRATS - one of the largest criminal organizations in all areas and levels of governments (state, county, city, etc.) in America - are determined to limit and eliminate as many of our freedoms and choices as they can, and then control those that remain. That is called "authoritarian control".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sauer Heckler View Post
    Democrats do not accept personal responsibility for anything. There are thousands of examples but my recent favorite is: Hillary did not lose because she was a deeply flawed candidate, Hillary lost because of Russian interference. When you look where the vast majority of crimes involving guns occur, you realize they are democrat controlled areas. Therefore it can't be democrat policies it must be something else. Blame shifting to avoid personal responsibility is option #1 in the democrat play book. Like every criminal you've ever seen, the contraband isn't theirs even when found during a cavity search.

    I must confess, I voted for Donald because I thought Hillary would grab my guns, even my pump shotgun, but maybe now I know better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stamps6 View Post
    So newbie John Preston, are you a DemocRat? You’re willing to give up freedoms for security? You want some stuff on everyone else’s hard labor as long as you get stuff for free? You think it was all rosie back in the 50’s. No it wasn’t. It was just that we weren’t carrying thousands of illegals, free loaders and entitled citizens. People wanted to work. They did what ever they had to to provide for themselves and their families. Nothing was beneath them. It was work, honest days work for an honest dollar. Now we carry so many free loaders that it’s choking us. Is it their fault? Not entirely. The do good, we’ll take care of you and everyone will be your friend attitude is just wrong. It breeds laziness and dependence. You can keep your revolver if that makes you happy but when the government has to “ corrected” or the SHTF I’ll be the guy with his AR standing on my own two feet shooting any MF’er who feels that they are entitled to my food and survival. Now go back where you came from and stop trolling for anymore reactions.

    Most of the freeloading on the American taxpayer dime is all the foreign humanitarian aid, acting like the world's 911, and letting in all these damn foreigners. No border control. No immigration policy with sharp teeth in it. Please see my signature below.

    I am an honorably-discharged veteran with seven years of army service as an American soldier during the Persian Gulf War and Operation Just Cause. The VA provides absolutely no dental care to poor Vets unless they are 100%-service-connected yet convicted felons, even murderers, get "free" dental and healthcare on YOUR hard-earned dime. How is this socially and economically just? Would you rather pay for a poor honorably-discharged Vet's dentures or an incarcerated child rapist's implants if given freedom of choice?

    America should take care of HER OWN PEOPLE, legal citizens here, first including the elderly, the working poor, the veterans and disabled poor before aiding any foreigners. I'm not saying subsidize lazy bums fully capable of working.

    So, yes, I would be willing to sacrifice the privilege of owning a Rambo gun which I can't even afford anyway to go p_ss away thousands of rounds at soda bottles so I can have some more living material comforts and still keep my pump shotgun for personal security.

    I'd be tickled pink to have VA dental care, a housing voucher and still keep my Remington 870 police pump.

    Would I trade my pump shotgun for new partial dentures on your dime? That might be a tough question to answer. Even in America we all can't have everything as we please.

    No trolling intentions here, just trying to educate the masses on my free time to do services to my fellow Americans. Sharing is caring. Nobody is paying me money to type here.
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    What is a "Rambo gun"?

    Are you willing to trade MY Right to own one for an increase in your personal comforts?
    The difference between a Socialist and a Communist is that the Socialist doesn't have all the guns yet.

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