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    Default Rigging the presidential election with the popular vote

    Martin Marcus
    June 12, 2019


    Democrats who are still bitter about Hillary Clinton losing the 2016 presidential election want future presidential elections decided by the popular vote. They are pursuing this goal not with a constitutional amendment, but with a law passed by several states. The law is called the [[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]. With this law, the electoral votes of a participating state automatically go to the winner of the national popular vote. So far, 14 states and Washington, D.C. have passed this law. This adds to 189 electoral votes. When the number gets to 270, the law takes effect — at which point this country will no longer be a republic.

    Many writers have outlined the horrors of this bill. In a nutshell, 51% of us will be able to rule the other 49% with an iron fist. How close are we to this fate?

    Recently, Democrat Governor Sisolak of Nevada vetoed the bill. He realized that if the law takes effect, all future presidents will be Democrats, but none of them will be grateful to Nevada. His state will not get any pork. His loyalty to money exceeds his loyalty to party.

    Several other states are considering this bill. The states with either the upper house or lower house or both in Republican hands will likely vote it down. The states with both houses controlled by Democrats — Maine, New Hampshire, and Oregon — have few electoral votes and are in the same boat as Nevada. They would be wise to discard the bill.

    We are safe until the next Democrat wave sweeps in a president with coattails to turn some of these legislatures around. We are not out of the woods yet.

    I would like to put the bill out of its misery before the next Democrat wave by discussing its legality. Article II, Section 4 of the U.S. Constitution says, "The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government[.]" This means that all states get to choose those who represents them. A national popular vote would take the states' choices away from them. A state's electors would be decided by people outside of the state. The National Popular Vote law is unconstitutional.

    It would be nice if we could just declare the law unconstitutional and be done with it. Unfortunately, we must wait for the misbehaving states to acquire 270 electoral votes and elect a president. People may then initiate a lawsuit. This lawsuit must survive judges who will be appointed by the new president. The judges will likely defy the Constitution and uphold the popular vote criterion. We will then have one-party rule forever.

    We need to invalidate this law before the judges become tainted. Fighting such an effort are judges who are quick to say our complaint is moot because the law has not been implemented yet and that the complainants have no standing because the complainants do not live in the right states or are not running for president. Judges also like to delay hearing cases. This could allow significant damage to be done to our political system.

    I suggest that we explain to people that the bill is illegal. It may sound nice to some Democrat voters to enact the new law and have the Democrats win all of the presidential elections, but breaking the law is never the right thing to do.

    Ironically, every Democrat congressman and senator who supports this bill took an oath to support and defend the Constitution. Many of them are lawyers and know about Article II, Section 4. They are not just public servants making an innocent mistake. They know exactly what they are doing.




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    Who is in charge of slapping these supporters of back door regime change and don’t tell me “ the voters” because these are the same people who want socialism.
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    Using fraud and violence, and rallying support by appealing to white supremacy, the Democrats held on to their power in Georgia and other Southern states.
    Many Democrats refused to endanger white supremacy by voting against the Democratic Party.
    In 1896 the Populists fused into the Democratic Party. With the defeat of Democratic presidential candidate William Jennings Bryan and with the Democrats successfully launching white unity campaigns in the South, the Populists gradually disappeared as a political force.
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    "The judges will likely defy the Constitution and uphold the popular vote criterion. We will then have one-party rule forever."

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    They are not just public servants making an innocent mistake. They know exactly what they are doing."

    In other words, the U.S. will become just one big New York-Washington D.C./Kalifornia "state", or "The Coastal States of America".
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    What if Trump wins the popular vote? Golly geee, what will the democrats ( marxists ) do next.

    This country NEEDS voter ID, also tearm limits.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stevejet View Post
    "The judges will likely defy the Constitution and uphold the popular vote criterion. We will then have one-party rule forever."

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    They are not just public servants making an innocent mistake. They know exactly what they are doing."

    In other words, the U.S. will become just one big New York-Washington D.C./Kalifornia "state", or "The Coastal States of America".
    And, if this were to happens, I see the USA being broken down in several new nations as the states that looses the right to elect the president decides to brake from the United States and form a new nation.
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    2016 was a wakeup call for the left. Corrupting the entire government did not guarantee a republican couldn't win. They won't make that mistake again. Votes, by any means, is their mantra now. Voter fraud will put them back in charge.
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    I can see it now...the 2020 election winner won't be selected by the Supreme Court until April 2021.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yosemite Sam View Post
    Votes, by any means, is their mantra now. Voter fraud will put them back in charge.

    This^^^^^^^ I'm quite sure that by now these mooks have figured out how to effectively rig the ballots... they may not need the electoral,,but why wait and take a chance on loosing when they can have it all done before the vote actually takes place
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    The DEMOCRAT-Socialists will borrow the tactic of "ballot harvesting" used by the DEMOCRATS in Kalifornia in the most recent election.
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